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Objectives

I do not mean, in any way, to overturn the course of things in this comparative. I only hope that by suggesting a rigorous method of information research, I can show how certain modern media abuses us in a very menacing manner!

I don’t appreciate, at all, the way some information are over-mediatized, while other information as important if not more being rarely brought up, and other fundamental information meticulously kept hidden!!!

I do not want at all to impose one way of thinking; on the contrary, I struggle to keep the benefit of the doubt, the role of skepticism, the curiosity and the intellectual requirements met.

My objective is not only to provide another comparative, but to provide a real one by letting the 3 religions at study, the historians, the philosophers, the scientists speak for themselves.....

This objective study turned upside down some of my prejudices related to the 3 religions (I am not soft regarding my original religion!!).

This leads me to meditate on the factors that should, nowadays, spiritually unite and not divide Jews, Christians and Muslims

 

Methodology

The references are books and Websites (several months of research, crosschecking and reexamination by third parties were necessary), but they could still hold some errors (every suggestion is welcome to ameliorate the data of this comparative table, which would get refined by the contribution of the largest numbre of critical and demanding minds)...

 

The critical readings and multiple advices lead to the refinement of the initial data (by confronting them to multiple sources, with different levels of accuracy, in several languages)...  

The result is "culturally" very interesting and enriching.

 

The conclusions belong naturally for each one.


To study with the same level of expectation and objectivity the three major religions
said to be monotheist (no compromise for the religion(s) that I feel close to by birth, in my surroundings or my journey).
Avoid the effect: to see the straw in the eye of your neighbour and not the beam in your own!!!
For each question that the followers of a religion criticize the other two religions, ask them the following question: what is the opinion of your own religion on that subject.
Reset the prejudices counter, from the waste of culture, the manipulations of media, the deceiving of intellectual self-proclaimed elite (that want to think for everybody, and thus stop others from thinking for themselves).
To have  a mature and demanding attitude towards the media: multiply the sources (pro, against and neutral, in order to get as close as possible to the truth) because the followers of one of the three religions criticize cheerfully the other two... Wrongly or rightfully.
Distinguish between what derives from the religion and what shows from the wrong application or the absence of application of the followers (since the three religions are namely malpracticed by their followers, the objective of this research is not to judge the followers but to study the three religions based on the sources).
Study the 3 religions through the essential questions: from the authenticity of scripts in responding to the human and social questions, to exposing those facts to scientific and historical data.

Keep an analytical attitude towards each topic: some dismissal notes that bring out new precisions

(Everyone is invited to dig in deeper if desired).
Given the large amount of compiled documents (all public and accessible... mainly on internet) and the concern to stay analytical in presenting the result, the reader is invited to verify with his/her own means: whoever puts the required effort and time could build a similar analysis.

Religion and God and Worship

A unique God, accessible with no intemediary, almighty and juste?

                                  

The "founders"

Judaïsme

Abraham, Moses and many other prophetes before Jesus           

Christianity

Jesus

Then Saint Paul who marked a radical rupture with the original Judic-christianity

Mattew 5:17 : "the law will not be abolished" appears to refute the abolition of the Law done by Paul           

Islam

Abraham, Moses and many other prophetes, then Jesus and finally Mohamad

References and their essential caracteristics

Judaïsme

The Hebrew Bible (or Tanakh –acronym of Thora, Neviim and Ketouviim-), includes:

- The Torah (composed of the written Torah - or Moses law, which we can find in the Old Testament of Christians, more precisely in what is called the Pentateuque : Genesis, Exodus, Levitic, Numbers, Deuteronom-

And the spoken Torah, composed of the Michna (collection of the spoken tradition of the Torah) and the Talmud (collection of interpretations of the Torah and the Michna)

- The Neviim (« The Prophets »)

- The Kétouvim (« The Scripts » or « Hagiographs »)

Hebrew Bible:

For the Liberals, it is a historical and spiritual document

For the Conservatives it is in part the word of God”

 

The books constituting the Bible were composed at various times; one finds indeed different "literature styles", and, side to side with the subjects of divine inspiration, one can find some assertions which are the translation of certain profane beliefs or traditions of various times.

Changes introduced through different times introducing the innovations and contradictions: which explains many contradictions and incompatibilities with the modern scientific data (cf paragraph Logic)

Christianity

The Bible (Christian), which includes:

- The Old Testament (of which is the " Pentateuque ", which corresponds to the written Torah, and a great part of books of the Prophets and the Scripts)

- The New Testament (including 4 Canonical Gospels: according to Mattew, Marcus, Lucus and John)

Protestants: The Bible cannot to be taken neither as a book of science, nor as a handbook of history. Thus making it an interpretative and not fundamental reading of the Bible.

The Protestants refer only to the Bible. The catholics practise in addition the customs and the traditions

The books constituting the Bible were composed at various times; one finds indeed different "literature styles", and, side to side with the subjects of divine inspiration, one can find some assertions which are the translation of certain profane beliefs or traditions of various times.

The New Testament is the result of a selection (in 1546 at the time of the Council of Thirty) by the church among the multiple writings recalling the life of Jesus and his teaching, done well after the death of Jesus. The excluded Gospels and censured books are called "apocryphal books" (see for example on www.geocities.com/cest_quoi_lislam/evangilede_barnabe.htm with chapter 39)

The catholics have more books in their old testament than the Protestants. Ex. the canon of Alexandria

Changes introduced through different times introducing the innovations and contradictions: which explains many contradictions and incompatibilities with the modern scientific data (cf paragraph Logic)

Islam

- Quran.

- The sayings, acts, behaviors and others of facts of life of the Prophet constitute "Sunna" (like are the Gospels concerning the life of Jesus).
The "Hadiths" which are the bases of this "Sunna", relate to the acts, approvals and the words pronounced by Mohammad transmitted by his close relatives then by a chain of recognized transmitters worthy of faith.

Quran: Last revelation; word of God (with no other human contribution)

The Divine revelations transmitted to Mohammad were copied when he was alive; these transcriptions were assembled immediately after the death of Mohammad (during the 2 years which followed) to constitute the Quran

The first collections of Hadiths were written decades after the death of (Mouhammad), like Gospels were decades after the death of Jesus. In both cases, they are human testimonies on old facts. Nevertheless, for the sounna, the transmitters have been listed, and one says "according to so-and-so according to so-and-so "... and not it is said to be (by one does not know who). Islam has in effect a science which studies the life of the transmitters and their degree of credibility. From which results a strict classification of Hadiths according to the degree of reliability of their transmission.

The initial text of Quran in Arabic did not undergo any modification since the revelation (the available translations to other languages and to French in particular, suffer all, at different degrees, from the lack of expertise of their authors in one or both languages)

In spite of the multitude of scientific subjects contained in Quran, it was shown that Quran does not include any information in contradiction with modern scientific knowledge (cf paragraph Logic)

 

Branches

Judaism

Many branches before JC and much after JC:

Before JC (Sadducians, pharises, herodians, essenians, Zealoies, Samaritans, sanhedrins, publicans, gentils)

After JC (ebionites - of which nazaritens {Jesus Messiah} and Christians {Jesus god} -, rabbinical Judaism, reaction counter-rabbinical Judaism, geonim, Sepharades and ashkenazes, mysticism {gnosticism, kabbala and numerology, hassidism}, haskala)

Orthodox, reform, conservatives, reconstructionnists, hassidism (the )

Zionism (political doctrines related to the religion/Israel)

Christianity

Catholics (50%), Protestants (40%) and Orthodox (10%) (several branches each one)

Roman catholic church and emanations > 50% (gallican church, catho-copte, Ethiopian, Eritrean, syriaque, malankare, Armenian catholic....)

Orthodox = 10% (copte, Ethiopian, Eritrean, syriaque, malankare, apostolic Armenian....)

Protestants and emanations 40% (Lutherans, Calvinists, Anabaptists - of which Baptists and Amish -, Anglicans - of which methodists -, American millenarists - of which Jehovah’s witnesses....)....

Islam

Sunnis (more than 85%) and Shiites

Places of Worship

Judaism

Synagogue

Christianity

Church or Temple

Islam

Mosk

Universal Religion

Judaism

No: Addresses only to Jewish people

Like Hindouism, the Judaism addresses obviously only one people (one race)... (which explains for Hindouism in particular a strong concentration (+ of 90%) in only one country)... The fact of not being "eligible" no matter what the origin is (except in very exceptional cases very) leads to the following question: Can God be partial or unjust???

 

Christianity

Yes

Islam

Yes

Unique God (Monotheism)

Judaism

Monotheism

Jews had built a Calf after their exit from and adored it (worship that disappeared later on)

Jews claimed that Ozaïr (Esdras), a human, was the "son" of God! Reason: After destruction of the first Temple, he was the only one to know the Torah by heart (worship that disappeared later on)

Christianity

Trinity: according to the majority of Christians (three entities in one): God = The Father + The Son + The Holly Spirit

Jesus - sone of Mary is God.

Since Saint Paul: quarrels, sects and dissensions within the core of evangelic world (on the exact nature of Jesus and his relation to God)"

The trinity is the dominant doctrine nowadays for the Christians. It was born and reinforced by Paul around year 70 after JC even if the word trinity appeared only at the end of the 2nd century, beginning of the 3rd. The Judeo-Christianity of origin (which believed in Jesus as a man and prophet: cf. Acts 2:22 "Israeli man, listen to his words: Jesus of Nazareth, approved man of God sent to you,  by the miracles and wonders and signs that God made by him...") was considerably altered by Paul.

Traces of the original monotheism reappeared at the time of reform like Unitarianism "by some dissidents who denied the dogma of the Trinity because they saw an abandonment of monotheism "(Large Larousse Universal) and who believed in the "human nature of Jesus Christ" (Encyclopaedia Universalis)

In the 4 canonical Gospels, Jesus never evokes the current dogmas (original sin carried by all men; Jesus son that God sent and sacrificed to wash this sin; redemption accomplished by only having faith in the sacrifice of Jesus; Jesus is God; the Trinity)

The opposite is even sometimes found (John 5:30; Lucas 11:20; John 8:40 "It is me who told you the truth "according to the Oecumenical Translation of the Bible

which "forgot" a word of the original Greek "me, a MAN

who told you the truth"!!! I am loosing my Latin... forgiveness, my Greek!;

Ezekiel 18:20 "the soul that sins it is the one that will die. The son will not carry the iniquity of his father, and it father will not carry the iniquity of his son...."

Mattew 5:17 "do not believe that I come to abolish the law or the prophets; I came not for abolishment but for achievement ".

 

Islam

Monotheism

Allah = God in Arabic language

Description of God

Judaism

God eternal without beginning nor end

God Almighty but presenting human characteristics or weaknesses:

God prone to tiredness "Because in 6 days the Eternal made the skies, the earth and the sea and all their contents, and rested the 7th day "(Exodus 20:11)

God can be seen: Moses sees (with his eyes) God partially from behind (Exodus 33:23) "then I will withdraw my hand and you will see me from behind, but my face cannot be seen "

God can be overcome: Fight with Jacob (Genesis 32:28-29)"Jacob will not be any more the name given to you but will be because you fought with God and men and you were winner "

God compared with a squatted lion (Numbers 24:9) "He is squatted, He lies down like a lion and a lioness: who will make him raise "

God suffering of regrets for creation of man (Genesis 6:6) "the eternal regretted having made man on the earth and his heart was broken "

"I am God and there is no body else; I am God and there is nobody like me "(Bible, Test 46:9)

 

Christianity

God eternal without beginning nor end

God Almighty but presenting human characteristics or weaknesses:

God prone to tiredness "Because in 6 days the Eternal made the skies, the earth and the sea and all their contents, and rested the 7th day "(Exodus 20:11)

Because my father fought for you, he exposed his life... (The Judges 9:17)

God can be seen: Moses sees (with his eyes) God partially from behind (Exodus 33:23) "then I will withdraw my hand and you will see me from behind, but my face cannot be seen "

God can be overcome: Fight with Jacob (Genesis 32:28-29)"Jacob will not be any more the name given to you but will be because you fought with God and men and you were winner "

God compared with a squatted lion (Numbers 24:9) "He is squatted, He lies down like a lion and a lioness: who will make him raise "

God suffering of regrets for creation of man (Genesis 6:6) "the eternal regretted having made man on the earth and his heart was broken "

God incarnated as a man (Jesus)

 

Islam

God eternal without beginning nor end

God does not resemble anything existing, is not delimited (neither by a body nor distance nor time...), is not incarnated in any person or thing, is neither subject to any weakness nor imperfection...

 

In brief, He does not resemble anything Man can immagine

 

 

God Just

Judaism

All men are born sinners from the original sin of Adam and Eve (to be punished for a fault made by others can seem rather contradictory with the concept of Divine justice)

The responsibility for a sin is carried by the following generations / To the Jews, this responsibility is carried during 10 generations for the children born outside marriage. To the Jews and Christians, because of the role of instigator of Eve at the time of original sin, women were held liable to men and were punished by the pains of childbirth; as for the man, he is punished also by having to work very hard to gain his subsistence

Man preferred and much superior to the woman (see the part Women)

God privileges some people over the others (see the part Tolerance and Violence)

Christianity

All men are born sinners from the original sin of Adam and Eve (to be punished for a fault made by others can seem rather contradictory with the concept of Divine justice)

The responsibility for a sin is carried by the following generations / To the Jews, this responsibility is carried during 10 generations for the children born outside marriage. To the Jews and Christians, because of the role of instigator of Eve at the time of original sin, women were held liable to men and were punished by the pains of childbirth; as for the man, he is punished also by having to work very hard to gain his subsistence

Man superior to the woman (because Eve sinned the first and encouraged Adam)

Islam

All the men are born pure

Individual liability: if sin then punishment only of the sinner according to his/her acts

Equality of men and women

God does not privilege no people, no race, no color; only piety is a criterion of distinction

 

God Accessible without intermediary

Judaism

No intermediate clergy for exercising worship

But in case of conversion to Judaism, a commission of rabbis accepts or refuses the application according to their own criteria and predefined conditions: to consume Kasher, observe the Sabbath, to have an active life with the community...

Christianity

A clergy classified hierarchically (flawless pope receiving the Holy Spirit and authority of legislation, priests, bishops...) which has the capacity to act in the name of God (to forgive the sins, to bless...)

The Protestants consider Jesus as the only intermediary between God and them. The catholics add to that the Church and the Saints

For the Protestants: No pope, no bishop, no Priest, no theologian can be given an authority which belongs only to the Script (see Logic: Availability of original texts)

Islam

No clergy for Sunnis (more than 85% of the Muslims)

For the Shiites: Clergy = Imam = the successors of the line of Mohammad, flawless, and to whom it is obligatory to obey.

PS. The Druz are one emanation of the Shiites

The Druz and the alawetes are emanations of the Shiites, too closed and secretive, mixing the books (e.g. the Druz rest on the Quran, the pentateuque, the psalms and the new testament), with long and complex initiation rituals, with esoteric beliefs (reincarnation, the holly calf), close to a certain Christianity that they encountered (the alawetes believe in a triad Mouhammad-Ali-Salman, celebrate Christmas, Epiphany Easter and Pentecot)!

 

Confession to whom

Judaism

To God

Christianity

Catholic : to a priest;

Others : To God or Jesus

 

Islam

To God

 

Entry of faithful in the religion

Judaism

By birth only if they are of Jewish mother

The other entries are exceptional and difficult

Conversion: commission of Rabbis who can reject or accept a conversion (according to their own criteria and predefined conditions: Kasher, shabbat, active life within the community...)

Christianity

By baptism: (the Protestants are against the baptism of the newly born. They prefer to leave this choice to their children when those reach an age whereby they are able to have an opinion on the question)

Conversion by baptism

Islam

By birth (all Men are born with the faith in Single God)

Conversion by the sincere pronunciation of the profession of faith: "there is no other god but Allah and Mohammad is his prophet "

 

What do they say about Jesus

Judaism

Circoncised/Adored Single God / Fasted completely/did not eat Pork/ate only sanctified meat or bled (Kosher)/Told his companions "May peace be with you "(or Shalom): Can thus be Juif!

Messiah announced in the texts but Jesus not recognized like the Messiah

Christianity

Circoncis/Adored Single God/ Fasted completely/did not eat a Pig/ate only the meat sanctified or bled (Kosher)/Disait to his/her companions "That peace is with you "(or Shalom): Cannot thus be Chrétien?

For the Conservatives: birth of a virgin; For the Liberals: normal birth;

It was delivered by the Jews to Romans, it was wounded, humiliated, struck and finally crucifié and killed of humiliating and painful manner

God, Sons of God sent to be sacrificed to save the men, Human nature and Divine

Among Moslems Shiites, there is a concept close to the sacrifice of Jesus: that of the martyr of the Hussein Imam (wire of Ali, cousin of Mouhammad): according to an analysis of Christianty Today published the 30/04/2003, of the evangelists close to the US government, specialists in the evangelization of the Moslems think that the Shiites are of this fact easier to penetrate... Very charming (one would say a market research)!

Islam

Circoncis/Adored God Single/Fasted completely/did not eat pork/only ate sanctified or bled meat (Halal)/Said to his/her companions "May peace is with you "(or Assalamou Alaikom): Hence can be Muslim!

Jesus, the prophet, was neither crucified nor killed, nor humiliated… God saved him: Jesus was brought up living to the sky; A man on whom God put the appearance of Jesus was crucified.

One of the major prophets of the divine Revelation

What do they say about Adam

Judaïsme

First man created by God

Disobeyed God in Eden

Christianity

First man created by God

Disobeyed God in Eden

Islam

First man created by God

Disobeyed God in the subject related to the forbidden tree

God forgave him after after his regret

Considered as one of the prophetes

What do they say about Moses

Judaïsme

Prophet

Christianity

Prophet

Islam

Prophet

What do they say about Mouhammad

Judaïsme

Mouhammad announced as the last prophet in the Hebraic bible

Deutronome 18:18&19 "this is a prophet like you -Moses (therefore born normally, having ruled his people and died naturally) that I will give rise to, from the middle of their brothers (not of israël sons -isaac descent- but of the brothers of israël sons -ismail descent); I will put my words in his mouth and he will tell them everything I order him to.  And if someone does not listen to my words, which the prophet would have said in my name (all the sourates of the Quran starting with In The Name of God ..)  , then they will be accountable to me"

Genesis 49:10 "Coming from an ultimate non-Jewish prophet, to whom people owe obedience" (Mouhammad is the last prophet)

Esaïe 29:12 The prophet Esaïe talking about the revelation of a document "it will be given then to the one that does not know how to read (Mouhammad was illiterate!) while saying: Read therefore this.  He replies: I do not know how to read.." 

Christianity

Mouhammad announced as the last prophet in the Hebraic bible

Deutronome 18:18&19 "this is a prophet like you -Moses (therefore born normally, having ruled his people and died naturally) that I will give rise to, from the middle of their brothers (not of israël sons -isaac descent- but of the brothers of israël sons -ismail descent); I will put my words in his mouth and he will tell them everything I order him to.  And if someone does not listen to my words, which the prophet would have said in my name (all the sourates of the Quran starting with In The Name of God ..)  , then they will be accountable to me"

Genesis 49:10 "Coming from an ultimate non-Jewish prophet, to whom people owe obedience" (Mouhammad is the last prophet)

Esaïe 29:12 The prophet Esaïe talking about the revelation of a document "it will be given then to the one that does not know how to read (Mouhammad was illiterate!) while saying: Read

therefore this.  He replies: I do not know how to read.." 

Matt 10:7 "the kingdom of heavens approaches" and not "arrived" as is translated poorly by the TOB (Translation Œcuménique of the Bible) from the original Greek text!! 

Matt 20:1/16 "thus the first ones will be the last ones and the last ones will be the first ones" (last revealed religion: Islam) John 14:15 prediction of the coming and the mission of another messenger of God / in the TOB: "the paraclet, the Holy spirit, that the father will send…" is a bad translation of the original Greek "the paraclet, the spirit, the saint, that the father will send…" / error aiming to conform the word of Jesus to the trinitary interpretation (while in the Greek text it is a matter of sending a holy man and not of the Holy Spirit..) 

John 15: 26 and 27: "When will have come the comforting one, that I will send to you from the Father, the spirit of truth, that comes from Father, he will testify of me; and you also, you will testify of me, because you are with me as early as the beginning"

John 16:12 and 13: ""I still have a lot of things to say to you, but you can not convey them now.  When the Comforting one will come, the spirit of truth, he will guide you in the whole truth; for he will not speak for himself, but he will say all that he would have heard, and he will announce to you the things to come."" the messenger to come will teach us everything that the generation of Jesus could not bear at that time

(ex. banning alcohol);

On the other hand, certain Gospels, censured and declared as apocryphal by the Church cite Mouhammad by name several times

(see for example chapter 39 of the Gospel according to Barnabé www.geocities.com/cest_quoi_lislam/evangilede_barnabe.ht )

 

Islam

The last Prophet : "the illiterate Prophet whom they find mentioned in the Pentateuque and the Gospil" Quran 7:157

What happens after Death?

Judaïsme

Resurrection on the day of the last judgement then Hell or Paradise

The thereafter is a relatively imprecise notion for the Judaïsme that recognizes the immortality of the soul but does not speak in an explicit way of hell or of paradise

The souls of the deaths are in a way in reserve, waiting for Olam aba, the future world under construction by the application of the Mitzvoh, the commandments. The arrival of the messianic times will mark a stage for the advent of the future world

Hell: some sort of passage in which the souls transmigrate after their earthly life, and where the soul is judged by God (but it is a matter of an exclusively spiritual world)

Paradise: spirirtual joy / contemplation of divine majesty and truth

Christianity

Paradise is the original Eden

Islam

The hell is temporary for the believers as long as it takes to pay for the heavy sins (eternal for the non-believers)

What determines the finale destination (Hell ou Heaven)?

Judaïsme

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Christianity

No consensus in christianity:

For some, faith in Jesus as God and Savior is sufficient to go to the Paradise (the actions matter slightly)

For others, good actions must be added

For the Catholics, the baptism is necessarily added and the sacrifices for the church (until recently (notably in Vatican II) or the baptism and other sacrifices for the church are no longer the condition sine qua non). 

Islam

Faith and the Good Deeds

Hell is temporary for the believers as long as it takes to pay for the heavy sins (eternal for the non-believers)

"Whoever does evil will be remunerated for that, and will not find in his favor, outside Allah, nor an ally nor a rescuer.  And whoever, man or woman, does good deeds, all while being a believer... Those are the ones who will enter Heaven; and no one will do them any injustice" Quran 4:123 and 124
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In this comparative of the  3 religions (Judaïsme, Christianity and Islam), The subjects studies are the following:

Religion and God and Worship

A unique God, accessable without intermediary, almighty and juste?

The "fonders"

Books of reference and their essential caracteristics

Branches

Places of Worship

Universal Religion

Unique God (Monotheisme)

Description of God

God Juste

God Accessable without intermediary

Confession to whom

Initiation into the religion

What do they say about Jesus

What do they say about Adam

What do they say about Moses

What do they say about Mouhammad

What happens after death?

What determines the final destination (Hell or Heaven)?

Religion and Values

Pure “humanistic” values (justice, fidelity, equality, solidarity, love, honesty, humility, integrity, patience, mercy, moderation, pardon)? 

Justice

Friendship

Love of neighbour, Brotherhood, Solidarity, Generosity, Faithfulness

Humility

Equality

Pardon

Parents and children

Politness and good manners

Democratie

Religion and Society

A religion treating the society problems in a manner human and effective at the same time in all eras and all places? 

Veil / Costume

Alcoolism

Body and health

Homosexuality

Work (commercial activities, to earn his living)

Drug

Sexuality

Religion and Women

A woman equal to man in rights and obligations and respected in her nature and in her specificity? 

 

Nature of women and equality men-women?

Right to know

Value of testimony

Respect and consideration of women

Questions on the impurity of women

Value of marriage

Consentement of spouses

Status of the married woman

Financial aspects of Marriage

Adultery

Divorce

Costume (Veil, ..)

Women and violence

Religion and Tolerance and Violence

A compatible religion with tolerance ideals, equality of treatment and non-violence? 

 

Racisme

Tolerance

Segregation

Weapon of massive destruction or non-conventional

Crimes committed by, because of, in the name of each of the religions (since 2000 years)

Brought back to the number of followers today (sort of average individual responsibility)

Holy wars or committed acts in the name of the religions (or attributed directly or indirectly to one of them… wars purely nationalist, resistance to an occupation or civil wars)

Religion and Logic

A compatible religion with good sense, intelligence, modernity, and convincing rationnally?

% of annual progress in the world (1994-1995)

% of progress in the world (in 50 years of 20th century)

Percentage of the world population

Where do the 3 religions progress

Availability of original text

Which of the three religions recognize the other two

Attitude towards science and reason

Coherence of available holy text

The most criticized religion in the media

Examination of the holy writings in the light of the modern scientific knowledge (the one established in a final manner final)

INC: incompatible with the modern science

CO: compatible with the modern science
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Religion and Tolerance and Violence

A compatible religion with the ideals of tolerance, equality of treatment and non-violence?

Racisme

Judaïsme

The non-jewish in Israël have limited rights private and civil and under checks and no political right / copied from the status of the non-jewish in the bible "the ger toshav" : total submission to jewish authority and payment of specific taxes (otherwise expulsion and confiscation of the lands)

The extract from the Genesis treating subservience of Canaan to its uncles Sam and Japhet served as a principal thesis for putting together the negre treatee.  The idea transmitted by the authors of the Torah then resumed by the , was to say implicitly that the Black would have been cursed by God in person (while it is a matter only of Noah in the text).  The result in front of the universal history, of these some lines of lost authors: 400 000 000 of direct and indirect victims of the treatee and colonization! 

(Genesis 9:24-25) Noah awakened from the effect of his wine and knew what his younger son has done to him; and he said: May Canaan be damned! He will be the slave of the slaves of his brothers.  And he sais: May the Eternal be blessed, the God of Sam, and may Canaan be his slave! 

Cham, father of Canaan, was always presented by tradition as being the putative ancestor of the black race, this curse justifying ever since the racism and ratifying the position that made the black the servants of the white. 

75% of the Israelis refuse that their children marry with Ethiopiens, according to a poll realized by the institute Geographica.  11% of the Israelis consider that the Ethiopiens are primitive, and 10% are convinced that they are not jewish.  The supremacy of the Jews is written in letters in the Thora.   «The non-jewish are not programed to do big things: it is their destiny, what can you do !  »

 

Christianity

Racism: promotion by the Mormon until 1978.  Always supported by Christian Identity, KKK, and of others Christian groups.  Officially rejected by the majority of the other churches.

The South-African church invented the apartheid

The extract from the Genesis treating subservience of Canaan to its uncles Sam and Japhet served as a principal thesis for putting together the negre treatee.  The idea transmitted by the authors of the Torah then resumed by the , was to say implicitly that the Black would have been cursed by God in person (while it is a matter only of Noah in the text).  The result in front of the universal history, of these some lines of lost authors: 400 000 000 of direct and indirect victims of the treatee and colonization! 

(Genesis 9:24-25) Noah awakened from the effect of his wine and knew what his younger son has done to him; and he said: May Canaan be damned! He will be the slave of the slaves of his brothers.  And he sais: May the Eternal be blessed, the God of Sam, and may Canaan be his slave! 

Cham, father of Canaan, was always presented by tradition as being the putative ancestor of the black race, this curse justifying ever since the racism and ratifying the position that made the black the servants of the white. 

Ambroisis: synagogue = place of cheating, house of impiety, collection of madness, condemned by God Himself, Epistles of Paul: the Jews are the enemies of all men for having delivered Jesus to the earthly death

Until Vatican II: curses and hate against the deicidal people

      

Islam

No difference between races languages or nations

Officially rejected by all sects of Islam

The weakest rate observed in the world

Piety is the only superiority criterion in the opinion of God

"Oh people!  Your lord is One!  Attention!  No Arab is better than a non-Arab!  No non-Arab is better than an Arab!  No Red is better than a Black and no Black is better than a Red!  If it was not by piety… The most noble one of you in the opinion of God is the most pious one" farewell ceremony

of Mouhammad

Tolerance

Judaïsme

"If your brother, son of your mother, or your son or your daughter, or the woman that rests on your breast, or your friend that you like as yourself, incites you secretly by saying: let us go and worship other gods -gods that neither you nor your fathers did not know, among the gods of the people that surround you, close to you or far from you, from one end of the earth to another, you will not accept that, and you will not listen to him, you will not give him a look of pity, you will not save him, and you will not protect him.  But you will make him die, your hand will raise itself first on him to put him to death, and next the hand of the whole people; you will kill him and he will die. .."  Deuteronome 13:6

 

Christianity

"If your brother, son of your mother, or your son or your daughter, or the woman that rests on your breast, or your friend that you like as yourself, incites you secretly by saying: let us go and worship other gods -gods that neither you nor your fathers did not know, among the gods of the people that surround you, close to you or far from you, from one end of the earth to another, you will not accept that, and you will not listen to him, you will not give him a look of pity, you will not save him, and you will not protect him.  But you will make him die, your hand will raise itself first on him to put him to death, and next the hand of the whole people; you will kill him and he will die. .."  Deuteronome 13:6

 

In 1052, decision to expel from Seville and its vicinity the Muslims that would refuse the baptism, provided that they don’t take a road leading to a Muslim territory, in which case they would be put to death. 

 

Talmud and jewish writings post-biblical burnt for impiety by st louis. 

John: the some seventy times where he uses the word jewish, almost always in a negative manner, weigh nonetheless very heavy. 

This anti-judaism is registered in these texts, the most universally known of christianity" (Marcus 16:16) Go everywhere, and preach the gospel to the whole creation. 

The one that will believe will be baptized will be saved; and the one that will not believe will be condemned. 

Vatican II: what was committed during His Passion cannot be ascribed vaguely to all the living Jews then nor to the Jews of our time

The Jews are even more guilty for having been unfaithful while they had received the biggest privileges

Decision to expel every Jewish that would refuse the baptism in (while stealing their goods at the same time to abandon them in poverty and need!) 

Vatican II: recognizes the injustice of the past of which the Christian education of the West was guilty in the eyes of the Muslims

 

The Council of Vatican declares that the human person has the right for religious freedom: By virtue of their dignity, all men, because they are persons, meaning they are gifted with reason and free will, and, by consequence, provided with a personal responsibility, are urged, by their very nature, and held, by moral obligation, to look for the truth, the one that concerns the religion first.  They are also urged to adhere to the truth as soon as they know it and to regulate the road of their life according to the requirements of this truth. 

Islam

Quran: "you will find that the people the closest and the friendliest towards those who believe are those who say: « We are Christians!  ».  It is that among those, are the priests and monks and that these people not at all swell with pride"

"The religion the most liked of God is the tolerant islam" Mouhammad

The Jews are again more guilty for having been unfaithful while they had received the biggest privileges

The Spanish historian Americo Castro praises the coexistence of the Muslims, Jews and Christians in Muslim Spain, calling it “prestigious exampke of Islamic tolerance”

Islam preaches the religios liberty for everyone and protects the framework in which each religion practices its worship. 

 

Segregation

Judaïsme

You will leave them in inheritance to your children after you, as a property; you will keep them as slaves for eternity. But with regard to your brothers, the children of Israël, none of you will dominate with harshness on his brother (Levitique 25:46)

(1 Peter 2: 18) You domestic, be subjected in all fear to your masters, not only to those that are good and soft, but also to the bad ones. 

Refuses all mixed marriage

 

Christianity

You will leave them in inheritance to your children after you, as a property; you will keep them as slaves for eternity. But with regard to your brothers, the children of Israël, none of you will dominate with harshness on his brother (Levitique 25:46)

The "Christian" faith was a basic condition in order for someone to become member of the medieval society, and an essential condition to become a citizen.  This is the reason why the pagan, the Jewish and the Muslim were on the margin of the society.  Not only their legal position did not allow for them to enjoy the minimum of their citizenship rights, but it deprived them totally of it. 

Refuses all mixed marriage (the Catholic church accepts at present a mixed ceremony not having value of sacrement!  And provided that the non-baptized person be in agreement with the essential elements of the Christian marriage: procreation, indissolubility. ..) 

 

      

Islam

Propose them same rights and obligations to the followers of the other 2, given that that does not offend their beliefs nor  their liberty of confession

Accepts the mixed marriages with the two other religions without converting the person (uniquely Muslim man with jewish or Christian woman)

Weapons of massive destruction or non-conventional

Judaïsme

Majority of inventors of WMD

Some possess WMD

Utilisation of non-conventional and chemical weapons

Christianity

The only party to have used the atomic weapon against (nearing repetition)   

Majority of possessers of WMD

Fabrication, sale and utilisation of non-conventional and chemical weapons      

Islam

Some possess WMD

Utilisation of non-conventional and chemical weapons 

Crimes committed by, because of, in the name of each of the religions (since 2000 years)

Rules applied to obtain the presented numbers:

Sources: internet (it is “bla bla” most of the time but it is the same rule for the 3 religions).

The presented numbers are in number of victimes (number of dead civil and military)

For Islam, even if it is not ideal, I have consulted sites: general or of propaganda anti-islam (athiest, jews, christians)

For the judaïsme, it is not the ideal neither, I have consulted sites: general or of propaganda anti-jews (athiest, "nationalist" or extreme right to say the things as they are, Christians)

For christianity, it is not ideal either, I have consulted sites: general or of propaganda anti-christianity (athiest, jews, catholic anti-protestant, and protestant anti-catholic)

I have zigzagged among the hate messages on some sites to center my research on the facts... but I think that there remains a non negligible margin of error in the results (when of the numbers lacked, I did my own estimations on the basis of the era, place and information found)

Judaïsme

200 000

These figures include:

For the judaïsme, the inventoried deaths especially during the 20th century -the data before the 20th century is not at all

precise- (different israëli wars, slaughter sabra and chatila in Lebanon, "mistakes" in lebanon, slaughter Deir Yassine in 48, invasion of Lebanon in 82 –bombs with fragmentation, chemical gasses and phosphorus. ... the same ones used by the Russians in Afghanistan and  provided by US to Iraq against Iran- and dead Palestinians)

 

Christianity

Mini : 178 650 000

Maxi : 500 000 000

These figures include:

For christianity, the inventoried deaths since the apparition in the year 0 (inquisition, Indian slaughters, war of the 30 years, the crusades, Rwanda, Malagasy, Vietnam, genocide of the Jews, the World Wars, Iraq wars, the ex-yougoslavia, algeria war, ireland, colonialisme, Armenians, lebanon, indochina, extension in Europe, confiscations).

The two sisters delivered the hidden refugees in their convent of Sovu, and brought fuel and burnt by themselves the place full of refugees.  As off August 1994, Catholic Church gives refuge to the two sisters in a convent to the South of Belgium.  The European public discovers with stupefaction that the case of the two sisters is not isolated.  In Belgium, but also in other European countries, one finds many priests and religious accused of participation to the genocide that enjoy calm days away from Rowanda and International courts, because of the Catholic Church assistance.  For example, the priest Emmanuel Rukondo, resident priest in the calm parish of Granges-Canal in Geneva, the priest Martin Kabalira that resides today in Saint-Béa near Luchon (Haute-Garonne).  Source: "Le Point" April 20 2001

In 1938, the “Nuit de Cristal”: The SS attack synagogues and stores belonging to Jews.  The bishop of

Freiburg, Monseigneur Gröber, declares then: « One cannot refuse to whomever the right to safeguard the purity of his race and to elaborate the necessary measures to this end. »

 

Islam

6 000 000

These figures include:

For Islam, the inventoried deaths since the appearance of this religion in 618 -analysis of almost 4000 events grouped by anti-islamic sites - (Armenian genocide, attack of Qaida, war Iran-Irak, diverse suicidal attacks, Sudan, Lebanon, India, Irak, Iran, Turks, Tamerlan crimes, Sultan Selim, akbar, the Sikhs, the Kurds, assyriens, Mongolians, expansion in Europe, Greeks, events with the islamists, the Kharidists, the koptics in Egypt, Alawites, Afghanistan, Grenade, Ispahan, antioche, etc. ..) 

 

Brought back to the number of followers today (sort of average individual responsibility)

Judaïsme

1,33 %

Christianity

Mini : 10 ,21%

Maxi : 28,57%

Islam

0,44 %

Holy wars or committed acts in the name of religions (or attributed directly or indirectly to one of them… purely nationalist wars, resistances to an occupation or civil wars)

Judaïsme

A part of the Jews having delivered Jésus (despite Vatican II) to be executed by the Roman

The Bible, which says on the subject of these opposers: "You will reverse their altars, you will break their statues, you will cut down their idols, and you will burn their pictures".  The Bible recommends equally to burn the conquered cities and to kill all their inhabitants: men, women and children. 

Slaughter Sabra and Chatila in and of multiples massacres

Crimes against the Palestinian people

Expulsion of the Palestinian poupulation

Confiscation of countries even to these days (several millions of deaths, notably children)

A big party of the decision-makers of the American administration are jewish and influence the external American politics

 

Christianity

In the name of a mandate of the Pope Alexandre VI, the conquistadores were sent "to christianize" the Indian.  They did it with a great fanaticism that costed the life to 40.000.000 of the natives of the New World all that from 1492 to 1560 (of which a part with the virus of the tuberculosis on the distributed covers)

1572.  The Catholics had invited the Protestants to Paris to arrive to a consensus, and then attacked them by night during their sleep.  By the next day, the blood of these victims flowed afloat in the streets of Paris.  And by that the Pope, the kings and the Catholic personalities congratulated themselves in honor of Charles IX. 

The war of Thirty Years destroyed literally the majority of the German people.  Some parished killed, others died of hunger.  This war of religions burned and transformed to ashes most of the flourishing cities of .  Luther ordered his followers: "Let whoever is capable kill, strangle, slaughter, in private or in public.  Kill, strangle, slaughter, as it pleases you, these offended peasants." 

Some were cultivating the land with corpses of their atheist victims as fertilizers! 

The theological divergences gave place to bloody fights: the origin of the death of hundreds of thousands of persons that strived to defend such opinion or to attack another. 

Slaughter of Jews in Paris 1182    Killing of millions of Jews during the second war

Confiscation of countries to these days (several millions of deaths, notably children). 

Courts of the inquisition: condemned 340 000 persons of which 200 000 were burned alive

Of the millions of killed persons at the time of the expansion of christianity in Europe. 

To the XVIth century, the Queen of the Catholic England, Marry Tudor, who declared: "Since the atheist souls will be burned eternally in hell, nothing is more legitimate than to imitate the divine punishment and to burn them on earth". 

 

Islam

Fight exclusively as self-defense against an aggression and never to impose faith

Attempts of September 11 2001 in New York (3000 deaths)

and of March 11 2004 in Madrid and of July 2005 in London
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% of annual progress in the world (1994-1995)

Judaïsme

0%

Christianity

1,46%

Islam

6,40%

% of progress in the world (over 50 years of the 20th century)

Judaïsme

-4%

Christianity

+ 47 % (Orthodoxe - 36%; Protestant +57%; Catholic +70%)

 

Islam

+235 % Projections ONU : In 2053 : one citizen of the earth on 2 will be born Muslim (law of birthrate) and if one applies the current rate of conversion to Islam: 60 to 70% of the world-wide population

Percentage of the world-wide population

Judaïsme

<1%

Christianity

In 2025: Christianity = 25% of the world-wide population (1980: 30%)

Islam

In 2025: Islam = 30% of the world-wide population (1980: 20%)

How do the 3 religions progress?

Judaïsme

Does not progress

Christianity

In the poor countries (Hunger, weak alphabetization rate, poverty, weak access to information.) 

The financial and technological means of christianity put at the service of evangelization (media, personal, humanitarian associations, NGO, influence groups) are of much superior amplitude to the two other religions.  The decline of the Christian religion instituted, so clear in western Europe, is not the same elsewhere.  In Nancy for example, decline in religious practice by young students (71,8 % declared themselves to be Catholic in 91, they are no longer than 55,4% in 99).  In , the weekly practice passed from 17% to 10%.  As for Latin America, it became a religious competition field: the Protestant pentecôtisme of origin north American is the first vector of it (emotional religion: enthusiastic demonstration of the faithful ones during logs orchestrated as shows. . .). 

We observe in the Christian space an hybridization of some religious forms, whether it is a matter of the re-interpretation of the protestantic healers of the orth american televangelists combined with demonologist religions and worships in central america, whether it is a matter of the development of the Brazilian Universal church of the kingdom of God, or even of the establishment of a neohindouisme in the west. 

Only the Orthodox space and specially Russian, contrary to others, has withdrewed itself to a comparatively preserved tradition.  This position replies to the necessity to define a Russian identity since the fall of communism.  (John claude ruano-borbalan - Human Sciences special edition N°May 2 June 2005)

 

Islam

In the most “developed” countries (strong access to information, life level...) 

Over 50 years (20th century) :

 

  North America   + 25%

  Europe                + 142,55%

               + 257,01%

  Africa                 + 2,15%

  Asia                    + 12,57%

 

: MITA Japanese committee of study of religions to help in confronting the challenges of the 21st century chose the Islam;

: recognizes Islam as being the native religion of and Christianity as being a foreign religion

Availability of original texts

Judaïsme

What the Christian interpreters of the old and New Testaments say: divine Inspiration with affirmations that are translations of secular beliefs transmitted by the traditions (Modified in different eras). 

2.6: The paradise of the Bible have been "borrowed" from the Sumerian poem (composed towards -2800) "Enki and Ninhursag" Where the Hebraic Eden and the Sumerian Dilmun are one and the same: same rivers, same place, same suffering, same original sin

 

Christianity

To Paul belong almost the quarter of the texts of the New Testament

Paul decided of several ruptures with the Judaïsme:

No more circumcision, no more necessary filiation with Abraham, no more devotion to a land, no more obligation to eat casher and possibility to unite at the same table Jews non Jewish people, abolishes the Law since it is the carrier of Death while belief in Christ carries Salvation.

What the Christian interpreters of the old and New Testaments say: divine Inspiration with affirmations that are translations of secular beliefs transmitted by the traditions (Modified in different eras).

The canonical Gospels are not 4 independent texts but the same story wrote and rewritten with the passing of time.  Marc, which comes first, is sometimes corrected or contradicted by Mathiew.  Lucas, who succeeds them, rewrites Marc and Mathiew.  And John, who comes last, does the cleaning of the other 3 to compose his own text; example of evolution: In Marc (the 1st one) Pilate is mean and the Jews incite him to kill Jesus...  In John (the last one) Pilate became kind and defense lawyer of Jesus, who does not crucify the latter but under the very strong pressure of Jews... Which to carries more responsibility to the Jews and gives pledges of good will to the Romans (in this domain, the Romans are reassured to read in the name of Jesus "My kingdom is not of this world”)… The evolution of text is hence linked to the diplomatic evolution with respect to the Jews on one hand and Romans on the other

 

Islam

What the muslims say about the Quran: Word of God with exclusion to any human input (fixe et non-modified)

Which of the 3 religions recognizes the other 2

Judaïsme

Does not recognize the other two

Christianity

Does not recognize Islam

Islam

Recognizes the 3

Attitude with respect to science and reason

Judaïsme

Reason et faith are incompatible

Christianity

Reason and faith are incompatible. 

In Vatican I, John paul II wrote that reason and faith are the "two wings" of knowledge with which man rises towards the truth (without as much as resolving the strong incompatibilities between the holy writings and the data established by the modern science). 

Condemnation of Galileh because he declared that the earth was round

"The problem of the origins of the cosmos tracks a boundary line between the scientific thought and that of the believer. The first one questions on the “how” of the origins; for some, it concludes that the world was able to be created by itself.  For all other, the thought of believers, common to all big religions, recognizes a God creator of the universe."

Chapter 2 of the Readers’ Digest proposed at the end of the Catechisme of the Catholic church (pp.760-762) in his French edition of 1998. 

 

Islam

"The advice of an educated person is worth more than the prayer of 1000 persons" (Mouhammad)

"Strive to know from the cradle to the coffin… in if it is necessary " (Mouhammad)

The Quran declared that the earth was round some centuries before Galileh

Reason and faith are compatible: every reasoned theought drives every creature gifted with intelligence towards the existence of a creator

Invitations to reasoning, to thought and meditation (keywords search: Think, reason, meditate) / Extracts from the Quran: Sourate 16 (THE BEES) 10 It is Him who, from the sky, descended water that serves you as drink and thanks to which the plants, of which you nourish your flocks, grow. 

11 Of it, Hes grows for you, the cultivations, the olive trees, the palm trees, the vines and also all sorts of fruits.  Here is a fine proof for people who think

Sourate 16 (THE BEES) 44 (We sent them) with evident proofs and holy books.  And towards you, We descended the Quran, so that you expose clearly to people what we descended for them and so that they think

Sourate 16 (THE BEES) 69.  Then eat all types of fruit, and follow the paths of your Lord, made easy for you.  Of within, goes out a liquor, of various colors, in which there is a cure for people.  There is really a fine proof in that for people who think. 

 

Sourate 13 (THE THUNDER) 3.  And it is Him who had spread the earth and placed there mountains and rivers.  And of every type of fruit he established there two elements of a couple.  He makes the night cover the day.  Here is a fine proof for people who think. 

Sourate 13 (THE THUNDER) 19.  The one who knows that what is revealed to you from your Lord is the truth, is he like a blind person?  Only the people gifted of intelligence think well

Sourate 45 (The kneeling) 13.  And he submitted to you all that is in the skies and on the earth, the all coming of Him.  Here is a fine proof for people who think.

Sourate 10 (JONAS) 24.  The present life is comparable to water that We descend from the sky and that mixes itself to the vegetation of the earth of which you nourish the men and the beasts.  Then when the earth takes its parure and embellishes itself, and that its inhabitants think that it is at their entire disposal, Our Order comes to it, of night or of day, it is then that We make it all harvested, as if it had not been flourishing the day before.  This is how we expose proofs for people who think

Sourate 39 (THE GROUPS) 42.  Allah receives the souls at the moment of their death as well as the ones who did not die during their sleep.  He keeps the ones to which he decreed the death, while he sends back the others until a fixed term.  There are certainly there proofs for people who think.

Sourate 59 (THE EXODUS) 21.  If We had descended this Quran on a mountain, you would have seen it humble itself and melt for fear of Allah.  And these words We quote them for people to think

Sourate 30 (THE ROMANS) 21.  And among His signs He created of you, for you, spouses so that you live in quietness with them and He put among you affection and goodness.  There are in that proofs for people who think. 

Sourate 38 (SAD) 29.  [Here] A blessed Book that We descended in your way, so that they meditate on its versets and that the ones gifted with intelligence think! 

Sourate 17 (THE NOCTURNAL VOYAGE) 41.  Very certainly We exposed [all this] in this Quran so that [the people] think.  But that does nothing but increase their repulsion

 

Sourate 11 (HUD) 114. And accomplish the Salat at the two ends of the day and at certain hours of the night. The good deeds dissipate the bad ones. That is a motivation for those who think.

Sourate 7 AL-ARAF 175. And tell them the story of the one we gave Our signs and who evaded from them. The Devil, then, took him in his group and he became among the lost ones. 176. And if We wanted, We would have eleviated him with these same instructions, but he inclined himself towards the earth and followed his own passion. He is like a dog that roars when you attack him, and that roars if you leave him as well. That is the example of the people who call Our signes lies. So, recite the story. Maybe they’ll think!

Sourate 54 (HE MOON) 13. And we carried it on an object [made with] wood and nails [the arc], 14. navigating in front of Our eye: a prize for the one that was abandoned [Noé]. 15. And We left it, like a sign [of warning]. Is there anyone who thinks?

Sourate 25 (THE DISCERNMENT) 62.And it is Him who assigned an alternancy to the night and day for anyone who wants to think about it or show his gratitude

Sourate 16 (THE BEES) 12.  For you, He submitted the day; the sun and the moon.  And to His order are submitted the stars.  There are well proofs for people who reason

Sourate 16 (THE BEES) 67.  From the fruits of the palm trees and vines, you withdraw an intoxicating drink and an excellent food.  There is really there a sign for people who reason

Sourate 30 (THE ROMANS) 24.  And among His signs He shows you the thunder with fear (of lightning) and hope (for rain), and descend from the sky a water with which He gives again the life to the earth after its death.  There are in that proofs for people who reason

Sourate 30 (THE ROMANS) 28.  He quoted you a symbol of yourselves: Have you associated your slaves to what We attributed to you in sort that you be all equal ones [in property rights] and that you fear them [as much as] you fear yourselves mutually?  This is how We expose Our verses for the people who reason

Sourate 8 (THE LOOT) 22.  The worse beasts for Allah, are [in truth], the ones that are deaf and mute that do not reason Sourate 10 (JONAS) 16.  Say: "If Allah had wanted, I would not have told it to you and He would not have made it known to you either.  I have been, before that, among you during a lifetime.  Don’t you reason?" 

Sourate 10 (JONAS) 100.  It does not belong at all to a soul to believe if it were not with Allah’s permission.  And He sends punishment to those who do not reason

Sourate 2 (THE COW) 164.  Of course the creation of the skies and earth, in the alternation of the night and day, in the vessel at sea loaded with profitable things to people, in the water that Allah descends from the sky, by which He returns the life to the once dead earth and sheds there beasts of all types, in the variation of the winds, and in the clouds submitted between the cky and the earth, in all that there are signs, for people who reason

Sourate 45 (THE KNEELER) 5.  In the same manner of the alternation of night and day, and in what Allah descends from the sky, as subsistence [rain] by which He gives again life to the once dead earth, and in the distribution of the winds, there are signs for people who reason

Sourate 57 (IRON) 17.  Know that Allah gives again life to the once dead earth.  Of course, We exposed to you the proofs clearly so that you reason

Sourate 40 (THE FORGIVING) 67.  It is Him who created from earth, then of a drop of sperme, then of an adherence then He got you out as a small child so that next you attained your maturity and next you became old, - some of you die earlier, - and so that you attain a fixed term, so that you reason

Sourate 2 (THE COW) 266.  Anyone of you would he like to see a garden of palms and of vines under which flow the streams, and that gives him all types of fruit, that the old age attain him, while his children are still small, and that a whirlwind containing fire hits his garden and burns it?  Thus Allah explains to you the signs so that you meditate! 

Sourate 2 (THE COW) 219.  They question you on wine and the chance games.  Say: "In both there is a big sin and some advantages for people; but in both, the sin is bigger than the usefulness".  And they question you: "What should we spend (in charity)?  " Say: " The surplus of your goods."  Thus, Allah explains you Its versets so that you meditate"

Sourate 38 (SAD) 29.  [Here is] a blessed Book that We descended towards you, so that they meditate on its verses and that the ones gifted with intelligence think! 

Sourate 4 (THE WOMEN) 82.  Don’t they meditate on the Quran?  If it originated of someone other than Allah, they would find of course many contradictions in it! 

Sourate 23 (THE BELEIVERS) 21. You have of course in the beasts, a meditation subject: We give you as drink what they have in the stomach, and you find there much usefulness as well; and you nourish yourselves from that 22. On them as well as on vessels you are transported

 

 

Coherence of available holly texts

Judaïsme

Bible: Two incompatible narrations of the genesis

Several contradictions in the books of the Jews

In the course of translation :

Contradiction in the books of the Jews:

2 Samuel 8:4(7 HUNDRED horsemen) and 1 Chronicles 18:4(7 THOUSAND horsemen)

1 Chronicles 21:12(THREE years famine) and 2 Samuel 24:13(SEVEN years famine)

Deuteronomy 2:19 & Deuteronomy 2:37(Moses deprived land of Ammon) and Joshua 13:24-25(Moses gives land of Ammon as inheritance)

2 Samuel 24:9(800,000+500,000) and 1 Chronicles 21:5(1,100,000+470,000)

2 Chronicles 36:9(EIGHT years, three months +10 days) and 2 Kings 24:8 (EIGHTEEN years, three months)

2 Samuel 10:18(700, 40,000 HORSEMEN) and 1 Chronicles 19:18(7000, 40,000 FOOTMEN)

1 Kings 7:26(TWO thousand baths) and 2 Chronicles 4:5(THREE thousand baths)

2 Samuel 6:23(Michal had NO children) and 2 Samuel 21:8(Michal had FIVE sons)

Genesis6:3(mankind shall not live past 120 years) and Genesis 11:10-32 (500,438,433,464,...etc.)

2 Chronicles 9:25(4,000 stalls) and 1 Kings 4:26(40,000 stalls)

Isaiah 40:28 (God does not FAINT nor WEARY) and Exodus 31:17 (God RESTED, and was REFRESHED.)

Genisis 1: (God creates Plants, THEN animals, THEN man and woman.) and Genesis 2: (God creates man, THEN plants, THEN animals, THEN woman)

Ezekiel 45 and Ezekiel 46 (DOCTRINES of offerings and sacrifices) and Numbers 28 and Numbers 29 (CONTRADICTORY DOCTRINES of

offerings and sacrifices)

1 Chronicles 8:29-38 (One list of NAMES) and 1 Chronicles 9:35-44 (A CONTRADICTORY list of NAMES)

2 Samuel 5 and 2 Samuel 6 (David brought the ark AFTER fighting the Philistines) and 1 Samuel 13 and 1 Samuel 14 (David brought the ark BEFORE fighting the Philistines)

Genesis 6:19-20 (Noah was to bring onto the ark "of EVERY living thing of all flesh, TWO of EVERY sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive ....male and female....of fowls....of cattle....of every creeping thing of the earth...") and Genesis 7:2-3 (Noah was to bring onto the ark "Of every CLEAN beast thou shalt take to thee by SEVENS, the male and his female: and of beasts that are NOT CLEAN by TWO, the male and his female.  Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female...").

2 Samuel 8:1 ("David took METHEGAMMAH out of the hand of the Philistines"). and 1 Chronicles 18:1 ("David...took GATH and her towns out of the hand of the Philistines").

2 Samuel 8:8 ("And from BETAH, and from BEROTHAI, cities of Hadadezer, king David took exceeding much brass"). and 1 Chronicles 18:8  ("Likewise from TIBHATH, and from CHUN, cities of Hadarezer, brought David very much brass").

2 Samuel 8:10  ("Then Toi sent JORAM his son unto king David") and 1 Chronicles 18:10  ("He sent HADORAM his son to king David")

2 Samuel 8:12  ("Of , and of , and of the children of Ammon, and of the Philistines, and of Amalek"). and 1 Chronicles 18:11 ("from , and from , and from the children of Ammon, and from the Philistines, and from Amalek.

2 Samuel 8:13  ("And David gat him a name when he returned from smiting of the SYRIANS in the valley of salt, being eighteen thousand men") and 1 Chronicles 18:13 ("And he put garrisons in ; and all the EDOMITES became David's servants").

2 Samuel 8:17  ("and SERAIAH was the scribe") and 1 Chronicles 18:16 ("and SHAVSHA was scribe")

1 Kings 15:33-16:6 ("In the THIRD year of Asa king of Judah began Baasha the son Ahijah to reign over all Israel in Tirzah, TWENTY FOUR years..... So Baasha slept with his fathers, and was BURIED in Tirzah"). 3+24=27. and 2 Chronicles 16:1  ("In the THIRTY SIXTH year of the reign of Asa, Baasha king of came up against ").  But he died in the twenty seventh year!.  Was he resurected?.  So how did he invade

10 years after his death?.

Ezra 2:6 (2812) and Nehemiah 7:11 (2818)

Ezra 2:8 (945) and Nehemiah 7:13 (845)

Ezra 2:12 (1222) and Nehemiah 7:17 (2322)

Ezra 2:15 (454) and Nehemiah 7:20 (655)

Ezra 2:19 (223) and Nehemiah 7:22 (328)

Ezra 2:28 (223) and Nehemiah 7:32 (123)

Christianity

Same as the previous paragraph

Many gospels rejected because they contradict the doctrine of the church: named apocryphic

Gospils of John and Matthiew: no ascension

Gospel of John: no baptism

Islam

No contradiction (sometimes some progressivism such as banning wine)

The religion mostly criticized by our media

Methodology : statistics on the last 100 messages yahoo and Google in french with the keywords Judaïsme, Christianity, Islam : counting of "benevolent", of "neutral" and of "malicious", and this was applied on several periods of 2005

Judaïsme

Very little

Christianisme

Moderately

Islam

A little too much

Examination of the holy writings in the light of modern scientific knowledge (the one established in a final manner)

INC: incompatible with modern science

CO: compatible

with modern science

Judaïsme

Earth and Univers:

INC: formation of univers (at the level of dates and succession of the steps)"

INC: the bat is a bird, while this is a mammal (Lévitique 11: 13). 

The rabbits and the hares are of the ruminating specie, while they are rodents (deutéronome 14:7)

INC: it is the sun that revolves around the earth, like in the miracles the most absurd that one can imagine where one sees Jehovah set back the sun ten degrees, to specify to whom has the right to increase his life by ten years: (Isaïe 38:8) I will bring back the sun and the shadow of the degrees brought down on the degrees of Achaz.  And the sun was brought back by ten degrees on the degrees where it had been brought down.  These passages have served mainly in the process Galileh to show the wrongness of the heliocentric theory

INC: the sun and the moon described as luminars

Man:

INC: Date of  appearance of man on earth

Genesis 1:27 God starts with the creation of the Earth, then the light, then the seas, then the vegetations then the stars and the Moon then the animals then the man and the woman.  The least we can say is that the editors were mistaken on the whole line: we know today that the stars were born (of which the sun) then the Earth and the Moon then the seas then the vegetations and the animals then the man.  The Genesis corresponds to the vision of the authors of the era but has nothing to do with the reality. 

Genesis 1:31 God created all that in 6 days! Some thousands of years ago (about 6000 according to the theologians).  This is very far away from reality. We know today that billion years were necessary to do that: first for the formation of the univers, then stars as the Sun, planets as the Earth then seas and oceans, the birth of life that has not stop complexifying (the fossils prove it) and at the end man. 

INC: universal Flood (position in time)

INC: Narrative of the exodus of Moses (chronology and events)

Animal species:

INC: Order of appearance of the earthly animals and birds INC: Reproduction in the vegetations before the existence of the sun

INC: vegetations appearing at the same time as man on earth (in the 2nd narrative)

Christianity

Terre et Univers :

INC: formation of univers (at the level of dates and succession of the steps)"

INC: the bat is a bird, while this is a mammal (Lévitique 11: 13). 

The rabbits and the hares are of the ruminating specie, while they are rodents (deutéronome 14:7)

INC: it is the sun that revolves around the earth, like in the miracles the most absurd that one can imagine where one sees Jehovah set back the sun ten degrees, to specify to whom has the right to increase his life by ten years: (Isaïe 38:8) I will bring back the sun and the shadow of the degrees brought down on the degrees of Achaz.  And the sun was brought back by ten degrees on the degrees where it had been brought down.  These passages have served mainly in the process Galileh to show the wrongness of the heliocentric theory

INC: the sun and the moon described as luminars

Man :

INC: Date of  appearance of man on earth

Genesis 1:27 God starts with the creation of the Earth, then the light, then the seas, then the vegetations then the stars and the Moon then the animals then the man and the woman.  The least we can say is that the editors were mistaken on the whole line: we know today that the stars were born (of which the sun) then the Earth and the Moon then the seas then the vegetations and the animals then the man.  The Genesis corresponds to the vision of the authors of the era but has nothing to do with the reality. 

Genesis 1:31 God created all that in 6 days! Some thousands of years ago (about 6000 according to the theologians).  This is very far away from reality. We know today that billion years were necessary to do that: first for the formation of the univers, then stars as the Sun, planets as the Earth then seas and oceans, the birth of life that has not stop complexifying (the fossils prove it) and at the end man. 

INC: universal Flood (position in time)

INC: Narrative of the exodus of Moses (chronology and events)

Animal species:

INC: Order of appearance of the earthly animals and birds INC: Reproduction in the vegetations before the existence of the sun

INC: vegetations appearing at the same time as man on earth (in the 2nd narrative)

Islam

CO : Cycle of water and oceans, inputs of modern hydrology

CO : Water of floods not mixing in the ocean at the access point of floods

CO : phenomena of bending of land of which results the stability of the terrestrial core  

CO : Geology : Disposition of mountains favorable for stability

CO : respiratory discomfort with altitude      

CO : Knowledge on atmospheric electricity

CO : Declaration of space conquer

CO : Astronomy : Formation and Expansion of the univers

CO : Evolution od the status of the sun and its movement towards an ultimate point (coordinates known nowadays: Solar Apex)

CO : Declaration of the extinction of the sun after a ceratin period 

CO : Multiplicity of the easts (points where the sun gets up) and wests (where it sets)

CO : Movement of the sun and moon in the space in a proper movement;    

CO : Existance of orbits for the sun and the moon

CO : The nearest sky is a protection (Ozone layer…)      

CO : Existance of interstellar bridges existing outside of the astronomical organized systems

CO : Gaseous predominance in the first stage of the universe

CO : intrication between the appearance of a star (sun) and of its satellite (earth)

CO : Process of condensation of the primitive nebulous then of separation  

CO : Declares that earths likes our could exist in the univers

CO : Creation of the skies and the earth: no successive order in in the creation of the skies and the earth

CO : The sun is a light and the moon is a clarity       

CO : The nesting of the egg in the female genital device

CO : Evolution of the embryo inside the uterus

CO : Fertilization with a very small volume of liquid

CO : Nature of fertilizing liquid

CO : Does not situate the flood in time

CO : Narrative of the exodus of Moses (chronology and events) and conservation of the momies

CO : Reflection concerning the bees, the spiders, the birds and their programming

CO : Origin of the constituents of animal milk then the transmition to the blood through the intestinal partition (and circulation of the blood)

CO : Aquatic origin of life (and water being the first constituant of every living cell) 

CO : Instinct that drives the animals to regroup together for reproduction purposes and to organize in communities

CO : Reproduction of vegetations and equilibrium existing in the vegetable world

CO : Vegetations appearing before  man on earth
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Religion and society

A religion treating the problems of society in all eras and places in a human and efficient way at the same time?

Veil / clothing

Judaïsme

"The woman will not wear any armor of man and the man will not put on any clothing of woman" (Deut 22,5)

"The decency is very important for the woman.  First on the level of the clothing: it is forbidden to wear a dress that uncoveres a part of her body, with the exception of the face, neck and hands" Rabbi Youssef Haïm (The Laws of the Woman; Ed.  Salem Yshua, Jerusalem)

Christianity

"The woman will not wear any armor of man and the man will not put any clothing of woman" (Deut 22,5)

For if a woman is not veiled, she should cut short her hair or shave it.  Or if it is shameful for a woman to have the hair cut  short or to be shaved: she should be veiled herself (First Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians 11:6)

Islam

The woman should not wear man clothing and the man should not wear woman clothing

Presentation of the body: Decency, not to over-present shapes, not to reveal through transparency

Alcoolism

General report of the alcoholics: more adultery, of violence, of incest and of Aids...  All began as occasional drinker moderate with the intention of remaining that way. 

Globally, alcohol kills 49000 persons per year in (73 over 100000: 2nd mortality cause in ), and more than 750000 persons per year in the world (12 per 100000)

Judaïsme

Banning of pork, fish without scales, shellfish and alcohol (except Kasher alcohol i.e. of which the whole manufacturing chain is supervised by practicing Jews … then blessed by a rabbi)

The rabbis say that judaïsme wants everybody to get away from all alcoolisme

there is no problem of cacherouth for most of the beers, whiskys, etc.. 

Christianity

"Obtain strong drinks to the ones that are going to perish, wine to the heart full of bitterness, may he drinks!  May he forget his misery!  May he forget his pain" Proverbs 31:6-7 The prostitution, the wine and the moût (fermented) make people loose sens (Osee 4:11)

Effect of the alcohol in the bible

"make people scream " Psaumes 78-65

cause "of violence" Proverbs 4-17

"the wine is mocking and the strong drink is tumultuous" Proverbs 20:1

"causes suffering" Proverbs 23:29-30

"causes injustices" Proverbs 31:4-5

"brings the malediction of GOD" Esaie 5:11-12

“Source of sins” Esaie 28:7

causes throwing up Esaie 28-8 et Osée 7:5

causes lamentation Joël 1:5

causes immorality Hab 2:15-16

" Paul recommended to Timothy to take a little wine (Timothy 5:23)

"The wine is full of insolence and alcohol is filled with fuss; the one who lets himself intoxicated by it is not wise" Proverbs 20:1

"The Baptists: alcohol and wine are forbidden

In Jesus era, the wine - that of Kana for example- was very weakly alcoolised –like very light wines or juices of fruit of our days… The wine of today is an intoxicating alcohol of which the consumption is not approved by the bible"

Evangelistics sects (Adventists etc.)  : Total ban of alcohol, cigarettes, homosexuality, abortion, …

The Mormons forbid alcohol, tobacco, tea, coffee, chocolate, cocoa

Fundamental churches: ban of alcohol, cigarettes, dancing, movies…) / Revive US again.  The Reawakening of American Fundamentalism (Oxford University Press 1977)

"do not intoxicate yourself with wine, that would drive you to a disordered life" Ephesiens 5:18

Islam

"Cursed be the wine, the one who drinks it, who serves it, who sells it, who buys it, who transports it and the used means for its transportation, the one who prepares it and the one who harvests its profits" (Mouhammad)

Total ban (Koran 5:90)

Mouhammad: "alcohol is the mother of all the turpitudes, and the most shameful one "

Indian Tzotzils (Chiapas in ) : "the Christians have ruined their culture” with alcohol, "in the islam they rediscovered their original values" Esteban Lopez / International Mail quoted in New Obs 7-7-2005

The weakest rate in the world

Body and Health

Judaïsme

The aids is a divine punishment according to the jewish Law (the Halakha), punishing the deviances of man (Jakobovits; and Rabbi Barry Freundel: sin of homosexuality punished by death and in the absence of religious courts capable of pronounce the penalty, the Law indicates that this is a direct punishment of God)

During the 8 days of pesa'h, choose medicines rather in the form of suppositories or in the absence of that choose sealed tablets tastless and sour; not to use alcohol or the products of alcoholics ingredients (lotions, solutions…)

"All object on which falls something of their dead bodies will be soiled, wood ustensiles, clothing, skin, bag, all object that one uses; it will be put in water, and will remain soiled to the evening; after which, it will be pure.  All that will be located in a mud vase where something falls on it, will be soiled, and you will break the vase.  All food that serves for eating, and on which this water will fall, will be soiled; and all drinks that one uses, whatever the vase that contains them, will be soiled.  All objects on which something of their dead bodies falls will be soiled; the oven and the home will be destroyed: they will be soiled, and you will look at them as soiled.  There will be only the sources and the tanks, forming heaps of waters, that will remain pure; but the one that will touch their dead bodies will be impure.  (Lévitique 11:32-40)

Circumcision is a ritual marking the membership to the abraham descent (Origin)

If something of their dead bodies falls on a semence that must be sown, it will remain pure; but if water was put on the semence, and something of their dead bodies feel on it, you will look at it as soiled. 

If one of the animals that serves you food dies, the one that will touch its dead body will be impure until evening; the one that will eat of its dead body will wash his clothing and will be impure until evening, and the one that will carry its dead body will wash his clothing and will be impure until evening.  (Lévitique continuation 11:32-40)

(Lévitique 13:29-59) When A man or a woman will have a wound in the head or in the beard, the sacrificator will examine the wound.  If it appears deeper than the skin, and containign yellowish and thin hair, the sacrificator will declare this man or woman as impure: this is the marking, this is the leprosy of the head or beard.  If the sacrificator sees that the wound of the leprosy does not appear deeper than the skin, and than it does not contain at all any black hair, he confines the one who has it for seven days.  The sacrificator will examine the wound the seventh day.  If the leprosy did not spread, if it does not contain at all any yellowish hair, and if it does not appear deeper than the skin, the one that has the leprosy will shave, but will not shave the the place where the leprosy is; and the sacrificator will confine the one who has it a second time for seven days.  The sacrificator will examine the leprosy the seventh day.  If the leprosy did not spread on the skin, and if it does not appear deeper than the skin, the sacrificator will declare it pure; he will wash his clothing, and he will be pure.  But if the leprosy spreaded on the skin, after it was declared pure, the sacrificator will examine it.  And if the leprosy spreaded on the skin, the sacrificator will not have to look for yellowish hair: he is impure.  If the leprosy appears for him not to have progressed, and that there was grown black hair, the leprosy is healed: he is pure, and the sacrificator will declare him pure.  When a man or a woman will have spots on the skin of the body, white spots, the sacrificator will examine it.

If there are on the skin of the body spots of a pale white, these are only spots that erupted on the skin: he is pure.  When a man has the head stripped of hair, he is bald: he is pure.  If he has a head stripped of hair on the facial side, he is bald from front: he is pure.  But if he has in the front bald part or of back a wound of a white reddish color, this is leprosy that erupted in the bald part of back or front.  The sacrificator will examine it.  If there is a tumeur of a white reddish wound in the bald part of the back or the front, similar to the leprosy on the skin of the body, this is a leprous man, he is impure: the sacrificator will declare him impure; it is in the head that is his wound.  The leperous, wounded, will carry his torn clothing, and will shave his head; he will cover his beard, and will scream: Impure!  Impure!  As long as he has the wound, he will be impure: he is impure.  He will live alone; his stay will be outside the camp. 

When there will be on a clothing a wound of leprosy, on a wool clothing or on a linen clothing, on the chain or on the weaves linen, or of wool, on a skin or on some skin work, and that the wound will be greenish or reddish on the clothing or on the skin, on the chain or on the weaves, or on any object of the skin, this is a wound of leprosy, and it will be shown to the sacrificator.  The sacrificator will examine the wound, and he will confine for seven days who has it.  He will examine the wound the seventh day.  If the wound spreaded on the clothing, on the chain or on the weaves, on the skin or on the work made by skin, this is a wound of compulsive leprosy: the object is impure. 

He will burn the clothing, the chain or the weaves of wool or of linen, the object of skin on which is located the wound, for this is a compulsive leprosy: it will be burned.  But if the sacrificator sees that the wound did not spread on the clothing, on the chain or on the weaves, on the object of skin, he will order to wash whoever is wounded, and he will confine him again for seven days.  The sacrificator will examine the wound, after it has been washed.  If the wound did not change aspect and did not spread, the object is impure: it will be burned; this is a part of the place that was bitten. 

If the sacrificator sees that the wound became pale, after having been washed, he will pull it out of the clothing or skin, chain or weaves.  If it still appears on the clothing, the chain or the weaves, or on any object of skin, it is an eruption of leprosy: what is wounded will be burned.  The clothing, the chain or the weaves, the object of skin, that was washed, and from which the wound disappeared, will be washed a second time, and it will be pure.  Such is the law on the wound of the leprosy, when it attacks wool clothing or linen, the chain or the weaves, or an object of skin, and according to which they will be declared pure or impure.  (Lévitique 13:29-59 continued)

the medicine must be cacherouth except in absolute necessity

 

Christianity

IVG: Against the abortion (the orthodox allow it in the cases of distress where it appears as a least evil: pagesorthodoxes.net)

The aids is a divine punishment, punishing the deviances of man (and, for the most strict ones, we must not help the victims if this is a divine punishment)

Christians property: Romans 12:1 "All object on which falls something of their dead bodies will be soiled, wood ustensiles, clothing, skin, bag, all object that one uses; it will be put in water, and will remain soiled to the evening; after which, it will be pure.  All that will be located in a mud vase where something falls on it, will be soiled, and you will break the vase.  All food that serves for eating, and on which this water will fall, will be soiled; and all drinks that one uses, whatever the vase that contains them, will be soiled.  All objects on which something of their dead bodies falls will be soiled; the oven and the home will be destroyed: they will be soiled, and you will look at them as soiled.  There will be only the sources and the tanks, forming heaps of waters, that will remain pure; but the one that will touch their dead bodies will be impure.  (Lévitique 11:32-40)

The circumcision was repealed

If something of their dead bodies falls on a semence that must be sown, it will remain pure; but if water was put on the semence, and something of their dead bodies feel on it, you will look at it as soiled. 

If one of the animals that serves you food dies, the one that will touch its dead body will be impure until evening; the one that will eat of its dead body will wash his clothing and will be impure until evening, and the one that will carry its dead body will wash his clothing and will be impure until evening.  (Lévitique continuation 11:32-40)

(Lévitique 13:29-59) When A man or a woman will have a wound in the head or in the beard, the sacrificator will examine the wound.  If it appears deeper than the skin, and containign yellowish and thin hair, the sacrificator will declare this man or woman as impure: this is the marking, this is the leprosy of the head or beard.  If the sacrificator sees that the wound of the leprosy does not appear deeper than the skin, and than it does not contain at all any black hair, he confines the one who has it for seven days.  The sacrificator will examine the wound the seventh day.  If the leprosy did not spread, if it does not contain at all any yellowish hair, and if it does not appear deeper than the skin, the one that has the leprosy will shave, but will not shave the the place where the leprosy is; and the sacrificator will confine the one who has it a second time for seven days.  The sacrificator will examine the leprosy the seventh day.  If the leprosy did not spread on the skin, and if it does not appear deeper than the skin, the sacrificator will declare it pure; he will wash his clothing, and he will be pure.  But if the leprosy spreaded on the skin, after it was declared pure, the sacrificator will examine it.  And if the leprosy spreaded on the skin, the sacrificator will not have to look for yellowish hair: he is impure.  If the leprosy appears for him not to have progressed, and that there was grown black hair, the leprosy is healed: he is pure, and the sacrificator will declare him pure.  When a man or a woman will have spots on the skin of the body, white spots, the sacrificator will examine it.

If there are on the skin of the body spots of a pale white, these are only spots that erupted on the skin: he is pure.  When a man has the head stripped of hair, he is bald: he is pure.  If he has a head stripped of hair on the facial side, he is bald from front: he is pure.  But if he has in the front bald part or of back a wound of a white reddish color, this is leprosy that erupted in the bald part of back or front.  The sacrificator will examine it.  If there is a tumeur of a white reddish wound in the bald part of the back or the front, similar to the leprosy on the skin of the body, this is a leprous man, he is impure: the sacrificator will declare him impure; it is in the head that is his wound.  The leperous, wounded, will carry his torn clothing, and will shave his head; he will cover his beard, and will scream: Impure!  Impure!  As long as he has the wound, he will be impure: he is impure.  He will live alone; his stay will be outside the camp. 

When there will be on a clothing a wound of leprosy, on a wool clothing or on a linen clothing, on the chain or on the weaves linen, or of wool, on a skin or on some skin work, and that the wound will be greenish or reddish on the clothing or on the skin, on the chain or on the weaves, or on any object of the skin, this is a wound of leprosy, and it will be shown to the sacrificator.  The sacrificator will examine the wound, and he will confine for seven days who has it.  He will examine the wound the seventh day.  If the wound spreaded on the clothing, on the chain or on the weaves, on the skin or on the work made by skin, this is a wound of compulsive leprosy: the object is impure. 

He will burn the clothing, the chain or the weaves of wool or of linen, the object of skin on which is located the wound, for this is a compulsive leprosy: it will be burned.  But if the sacrificator sees that the wound did not spread on the clothing, on the chain or on the weaves, on the object of skin, he will order to wash whoever is wounded, and he will confine him again for seven days.  The sacrificator will examine the wound, after it has been washed.  If the wound did not change aspect and did not spread, the object is impure: it will be burned; this is a part of the place that was bitten. 

If the sacrificator sees that the wound became pale, after having been washed, he will pull it out of the clothing or skin, chain or weaves.  If it still appears on the clothing, the chain or the weaves, or on any object of skin, it is an eruption of leprosy: what is wounded will be burned.  The clothing, the chain or the weaves, the object of skin, that was washed, and from which the wound disappeared, will be washed a second time, and it will be pure.  Such is the law on the wound of the leprosy, when it attacks wool clothing or linen, the chain or the weaves, or an object of skin, and according to which they will be declared pure or impure.  (Lévitique 13:29-59 continued)

The Witnesses of Jehovah refuse all blood transfusion

Suicide rate (from top to bottom) :

1. countries where it is forbidden or strongly dissuaded to practice a religion

2. countries where the majority is of an Asian religion (Hindouisme, Buddhism)

3. countries of a Protestant majority

4. countries of a Catholic majority

5. countries of a Muslim majority

Study of Simpson and Conlin, Socioeconomic development, Suicide and Religion - 1989"

Islam

Mouhammad: "the cleanliness of the clothing is part of the dignity of the beleiver"

IVG: accepted if the mother was in danger or the fetus was non-livable

Mouhammad: "Allah is pure, he likes purity, he is clean, he likes the cleanliness, clean therefore around you"

Assistance to procreation is accepted if: during marital life; with sperme and ovule of the parents; establishment in the uterus of the mother

Mouhammad said: "Pass water between the fingers and through the beard and use the cleans-tooth, for this is cleanliness, and the cleanliness drives to Faith, and Faith is at Paradise with its carrier"

Banning, to the one that consumed garlic, onion, from attending gatherings and meetings because their bad odor in the mouth bothers the speakers and drives them to hate the one that consumes them.

Mouhammad "Each step that the faithful takes to go to the prayer is a charity and every dirtiness or bothering thing that he removes from the way is a charity"

The circumcision is a ritual marking the membership to the Abraham descent and strongly recommended for hygiene reasons

The circumcision diminishes the number of infection by VIH by 3!!!!  (Figaro Science and Health 28-07-2005 - Etude 2002-2005 of the ANRS Agency National of Research on Aids).  Imagine the number of saved lives (by simply dividing the following consequences by 3) : the OMS publishes in 2004: 40 million persons live with the virus in the world (of which 26 in Africa Subsaharian), and more than 25 Million already are dead since the appearance of the Virus!!!; International organization of Work foresees 74 millions of deaths among the active ones from now til 2005 (AFP July 11 2004) => a very severe cost for the world-wide economy (more than 0,2 growth points in less for the very touched countries)

"Oh you who believe!  When you dispose yourself for prayer: Wash your faces and your hands to the elbows; pass the wet hands on your heads and wash your feet to the ankles.  If you are in condition of major impurity, purify yourselves" Sourate Al-Mâ'ida – The Eating Table - verse 6 "Tobacco is forbidden according to the majority

(Tobacco kills more than 5 million persons per year in the world – figure subject in growth, notably in the developing countries)

"Principles of: Life saving, health saving, Respect of the physical integrity of the man, Respect of the psychic integrity of the man, Respect and saving of the genealogical Permanence and of the filiation

Quaranteen / prevention: Mouhammad "When you learn of the appearance of the plague in a place, do not penetrate there and when it arises in a region where you are located do not go out of it"

Charlatanism considered as a form of polytheism; (Mouhammad) "the one that carries an amulet, may God not protect him ever!  And the one that carries a protection shellfish, may God not take him under his protection ever!"  Mouhammad forbade to urinate in stagnant water and in water that flows (prevention against the paludisme that kills more than a million persons per year)

The medicine must be licite except in absolute necessity: Mouhammad "God descended the evil and the remedy and established against each pain a remedy.  Also, treat youselves and do not resort in your cares to illicit things"

Should we treat ourselves?  Mouhammad: "Yes, for to every disease corresponds its remedy, except one, aging"

Exterior and interior cleanliness: "ablutions" for the 5 daily prayers

"Do not kill yourselves, God is of course constantly merciful with you" Koran 4:29

"… making the excellent things licit for them, forbidding them the bad ones.."  Koran 7:157

Suicide Rates the weakest in the world

"Eat and drink and that without exaggerating" Koran 7:21 (Prevention against obesity: 1st mortality cause in , followed by Tobacco then alcohol)"

 

Homosexuality

Judaïsme

(Lévitique 20:13) And if a man sleeps with a male, as we sleep with a woman, both of them did an abominable thing; they certainly will be put to death, their blood is on them.  One finds the same thing in Vayikra-18 for the Jews

Christianity

(1 Corinthians 6:10) Neither the emasculates, nor those who abuse themselves with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor outrageous, nor abductors, will inherit of the kingdom of God

(Lévitique 20:13) And if a man sleeps with a male, as we sleep with a woman, both of them did an abominable thing; they certainly will be put to death, their blood is on them.  Islam

Forbidden (but without rejection of the homosexual persons)

Lest rate in the world (of practiced homosexuality)

Work (commercial activities, to earn a living)

Judaïsme

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Christianity

And Jesus said to his disciples, In truth, I tell you that a rich will enter with difficulty into the kingdom of heavens; and I tell you again, it is easier for a camel to enter through a needle hole, than a rich entering into the kingdom of God. 

St Paul: No commercial activity between two Christians

St Augustin: the mere fact of devoting oneself to business is in reality a sin for it diverts people from the true that is God

Islam

Encourages the commerce and values it (if sincerity and loyalty)

Does not consider the acquisition of goods as a crime, nor it finds that the constitution of fortunes is a sin

A companion of Mouhammad: "That no person among you stop earning his living… Oh God grant me the means of subsistence… You have learnt that the sky does not shed neither gold nor money. 

Drog

Judaïsme

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Christianity

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Islam

All that impairs the judgement is wine (see therefore "Alcohol" for it is the same banning)

Weakest rate in the world

Sexuality

Judaïsme

The woman does not have the right to sexual act before the marriage!  (And the man?) 

As early as the beginning of the period, the woman becomes impure and the couple must abstain from all physical contact and of all that could lead to this contact (to sleep in the same bed etc.) otherwise: abomination (Toveah)

After the period, the couple cannot resume contact unless

after the woman soaked herself in a mikveh (cleansing ritual bath containing rain water)

The inspection of the end of the period is done by a white fabric introduced the deepest possible and turned in all directions to verify the non-subsistence of the least track of stain, and this for 7 consecutive days

Belief during a long time than the sexual act during the period generates dangerous diseases, leprous children or red children! 

The jewish woman who makes love with a goye (non-jewish) is defined as a prostitute by the Torah and does not have any possibility of getting married to a Cohen (class of the pontiffs) (Talmud yebamot 61,1; cf.  Roch, Rashi, Rambam and choulh'an Arouh')

In some orthodox sects, the couple made love with a white sail perforated to simply pass the penis (fear of the instinct) Today, obligation to do "that" in the black or the shadow

Sexual act possible in the framework of marriage Masturbation: forbidden for matter loss (that becomes stained) Condoms forbidden but pill authorized in the religious environments today (to preserve the pleasure of the contact for the man for in the two cases, the semence is "ruined") Sexuality for the pleasure (out of procreation) accepted

The original sin is not associated with sexuality (as is the case with a lot of Christian theologians)

The sexual union is considered as a commandment but

for which there is not pronounced blessing before the act like the other mitsvoth

The pleasure of the woman and her right to experience orgasm in the Cabale

"All the positions are allowed (Nedarim 20 a- b)

The halakharegulates nevertheless the frequency of the intercourses and the moments of sexual activities by the laws of Niddah -not during the period nor 7 days after- and the laws of Onah -season: indicating the right moment to accomplish the marital duty"

"Your desire will attract you towards your husband and will dominate you for him -or will govern you" Genesis 3:16

The woman can experience desire but must not express it publicly"

"Cabale / Letter of Saintety"

A just man does not get out of a woman that has beautiful appearance (for the man does nothing but to think of her form and not of the pure thought of  the top)"

"Cabale / Letter of Saintety"

Sex and spirituality are very related / no conversation nor futile words during the act"

"Cabale / Letter of Saintety"

The man must come to his wife with two types of words: word evoking exquisite delight,

word evoking the fear of God"

"Cabale / Letter of Saintety"

It is necessary to have the agreement of the woman for penetration, otherwise the two spirits do not

commune and the chekhina will not be present"

Rabbis able to get married

If a woman emits her semence first, she will carry a son and if it is the man, she will carry a daughter (Niddah 40,a)

 

Christianity

One does not commit any sin if the spouses do the sexual act without experiencing pleasure (Casuistique)

If during coitus one of the two spouses desires fiercely the other, this one commits a Mortal sin.  (St.  Jérôme – Theologian)

The preleminaries that precede coitus, which must be considered as pardonable sin if they are limited to simple strokes, are of a mortal level if they are carried out by kissing the genital organs and mouth.  And especially if it there is introduction of the tongue.  (Debreyne – Theologian)

The coitus between husband and wife must not be practiced more than four times a month.  (Sanchez – Theologian)

"It is not a sin if to a coitus done during the day follows

another one during the following night. 

(Saint Alphonse of Liguori – Theologian)

"It is not a sin if one of the two spouses withdraws himself of the coitus before emitting the semence.  (This for they still believed that the woman also produced seminal liquid).  (Sanchez – Theologian)

Given that the man gets weak the first, the woman commits a sin if she claims two consecutive benefits. 

(Zacchie – Theologian). 

To fight the frigidity that was shown because of the lack of erection of the penis, if according to Sanchez it was necessary to celebrate three masses, for the other theologians it was more effective to resort to the exorcisme or to the practice of the communion. 

No sexuality outside of the mariage(so no sexuality between Christians and non-Christians)

Commits a serious mortal sin the man who measures the length of his penis.  (Monsabré – Theologian)

The feminine masturbation, considered pardonable if carried out on the external part of the vagina, becomes mortal sin if it  is practiced with the introduction of the fingers or of any other instrument.  (Debreyne – Theologian)

Given that to lay in bed on the back is against nature, in order not to commit a sin the woman must carry out coitus while showing to the man her posterior part.  (Casuistique)

When a woman says having been violated by the demon, in order to be able to verify the effects, we must carry out a deepened analysis on her by observing meticulously the vagina and the anus!!! 

In order for the coitus to not constitute a sin, the sperme must be left inside the vagina after the lips of the uterus (Ultra uteri labra).  (Zacchie – Theologian)

No sexuality without will to procreate

Among the preliminary acts of coitus the following are considered pardonable: the penetration of the penis in the mouth and the introduction of a finger in the anus of the woman.  (Code ecclesiastique)

The anal coitus does not constitute a mortal sin if it is

concluded in the vagina. (Sanchez – Theologian)

The seminarists and the young priests commit pardonable sins only if they arrive to ejaculation by the means of simple strokes.  (Diagonal)

Contrary to involuntary pollution that does not generate any fault, we must consider the masturbation as a very serious sin for this one, according to whom the thought is adressed, corresponds to adultery, to incest and to rape.  The masturbation becomes a horrible sacrilege if the object of the desire is the Holy Virgin Mary.  (Sanchez – Theologian).  Catholic Church is opposed to the contraception (except natural method of regulation by observation of the cycle of the woman); the orthodox church does not treat the subject (leaves the decision to the conscience of each)

In , where 20% of the population is seropositive, the archbishop of Nairobi dares to assert that "the aids propagated that quickly because of the distribution of condoms."  Close to the Lake Victoria, the director of a treatment center of AIDS deplores that it is impossible for him to give condoms because of the opposition of church.  And he reveals that some priests go so far as claiming that the virus of AIDS enters into the composition of the material of which is constituted the condoms.  These criminal infamies also are propagated by the Christian church in Asia and in Latin America. 

Another opinion: emitted April, 20, 1995, by Mgr di Falco, spokesperson of the conference of bishops « it is necessary to use the condoms if, for reasons that do not belong to my judgment, we have not yet attain the proposed ideal»

Priests (and nuns) forbidden to get married for the Catholics The woman must remain passive / Ignorance of the question of the opinion of woman in sexuality

Pervert effect of that: during centuries in the countries globally Catholic, homosexuality was punished without having a law, while rape was neither sanctioned by the law, nor punished! 

Islam

All the positions are allowed as long as the penetration does not take place in the anus.  Let us recall that the sodomization is strictly forbidden in Islam.  Mouhammad says in this direction: "Allah will not look at (with softness the Day of the Last Judgement) all man that sodomizes his woman."  (By An-Nisa’).  According to the hambalite school, the masturbation is tolerated uniquely if it allows avoiding adultery or a certain risk linked to physical health, and this, for the one that has not the capacity to get married.  Therefore, if a person can get married, the masturbation will not be allowed.  (References: "Kachâfoul Qina' and Ghâyatoul Mountahâ").  According to the chafiit school, the masturbation is forbidden, as is the sodomization.  (References: "Al Mouhdhab" and "Moughniyl Mouhtâdj").  According to the hanafit school, the masturbation is forbidden if it has the sole purpose of the achievement of pleasure.  But if a person finds himself submerged by desire, and can no longer control the impulses and is afraid of falling in the "Zinâ" (for this person is not married), in this case this person can resort to the masturbation to get relief

The sexuality.  Islam lives a rich, blossomed sexuality.  When one compares this state of mind with the drought and the emasculation of the most important Christian obediences, one can be only surprised.  For a western person, Islam seems in this view point in contradiction with the bases of the religion.  The explanation is very simple: Islam respects the work of God.  The Human Being is made to have a sexual blossomed life.  It is while making love that a person attains

the status of the most complete well-being.  This is a phenomenal school of the awakening.  Sexuality brings the comprehension and the acceptance of the other.  The sexuality in islam is simple, riche and big. One obligation, always the same: to be responsible.  Sexuality is a serious matter.  In the letter, one does not practice it but between married persons.- Acceptance of the expression of the need of body without guilt with respect to the instinct and desire

Responsibility (in the how: in the framework of the marriage) without Guilt (to feel)

Mouhammad "Your body has rights on you" : rest, moderation, nutrition, listening to instinct towards the other sex

"Your sexual relation with your woman is a charity)

Mouhammad (because outside marriage it is a sin – Justice)

Sexuality for the pleasure (outside procreation) accepted; Mouhammad accepted interrupted coitus (mean of contraception)

Excision: is not an Islamic practice (the islam opposes it)

The pleasure is recognized for the man and for the woman (interrupted coitus: the man must obtain the agreement of the woman)

Preliminaries: allowed and encouraged

Sodomization: forbidden

During the period, coitus is forbidden (but not the caresses outside the zone of the pelvis)

Pornography: forbidden (considered as humiliation of the woman)

Contraceptions: all allowed (except the ones having an irreversible effect or threatening the health, and except if it is uniquely by selfishness to protect its goods of eventual heirs) Imams being able to get married
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Religion and Women

A woman equal in rights and duties to the man and respected in her nature et in her specification ?

Nature of the woman and equality man-woman?

Judaïsme

The rabbinic literature indicates also that the marriage represents a transfer of control from the father to the husband The jewish tradition denies the woman any control over her own goods and profits

As soon as the jewish woman gets married, she loses completely the control over her goods and profits to the profit of her husband.  The jewish rabbis confirm that the right of the husband on the goods of his woman is a corollary of his own possession: « Since he took possession of a woman, isn’t it logical that he takes possession of what she possessed?  », And « Since he obtained the woman, not should he obtain her goods also?  » Thus, the marriage can make the most rich woman practically without a penny.  The Talmud describes the financial position of the woman as follows: How can a woman possess whatever? all that she has belongs to her husband; All that is his is his, and that is hers is also his. ....  Her salaries and what she finds in the street is also his.  The objects of the home, even the bread crumbs on the table are his.  If she has a guest in the house that she would nourish, this would be steeling her husband... 

Strong inequality with respect to the question of adultery

Why this double standards of morality?  According to the encyclopedia Judaica, the spouse is considered as the property of the husband and the adultery constitutes a violation of the exclusive right of the husband on her; the spouse as a property of the husband does not have such rights on him.  This is to say, if a man has sexual relations with a married woman, he would have violated the property of another man, and will be punished. 

Punishment for the adulterous woman: death by lapidation

Christianity

Woman = responsible for the original sin => of tempting and seductive nature => this has generated an inferior consideration with respect to the man

The woman was the principle of sin, and it is because of her that we all die (catholic bible)

"Regarding her individual nature, the woman is defective and poorly raised, ….  " By St thomas of acquin

"Regarding her individual nature, the woman is defective and poorly raised, for the active force contained in the male semence tends to produce a perfect similarity of the masculine sex.  While the production of a woman comes from a defect in the active force or of a lack of a certain matter or even of an external influence.  Finally, the famous reforming Martin Luther could not see any benefit of a woman if it were not to bring to the world as much children possible, no matter what secondary effects: If they get tired or die, that has no importance.  Let them die in bed, this is why they are there " by St thomas of acquin

 

Islam

Adam and Eve have the same responsibility level in the committed sin => Woman considered as the equal of man "Believer men and believer women, obedient men and obedient women, loyal men and loyal women, enduring men and enduring women, fearing men and fearing women, men and women givers of charities, fasting men and fasting women, men and women custodians of their chasteness, men and women invocating often Allah: Allah prepared for them a pardon and a huge reward"

 

Right of knowledge

Judaïsme

The woman has a restricted right to acquire knowledge

Christianity

"May the woman listen to the instruction in silence, with an entire submission.  I do not allow the woman to teach, or to take authority on the man; but she must remain in silence.  For Adam was formed first, Eve next; and it was not Adam who was seduced, it is the woman who, seduced, was guilty of transgression."  (I Timothy 2:11-14). by Saint Paul

Islam

The woman has the right of knowledge with perfect equality to the man (it is even a right for one and the other)

No one has the right of silencing her. She has no obligation to consider her husband as the sole and unique reference in law and religion.

Value of her testimony

Judaïsme

The woman in Israël of today is not authorized to produce proofs in front of the rabbinic courts

There is no value for the testimony of the woman

Moreover, if a man takes a spouse and accuses her of not being a virgin, her own testimony will not count.  Her parents must bring the proof of his virginity in front of the old people of the city.  If the parents cannot prove the innocence of their girl, she is stoned to death in front of the threshhold of the house of her father.  If her parents are able to prove her innocence, the husband gets only a fine of hundred silver shekels and he will not be able to ever divorce her in his life "She is not credible enough to be a witness; and after all that:

death"

Christianity

None of the acts of the married woman has a legal value Christianity, until recently, followed the same jewish tradition.  Religious and civil authorities of the Christian Roman empire (after Constantine) demanded both a property agreement to recognize the marriage.  Under the Canonical Law, a woman could claim her dowry if the marriage was canceled, except if she was guilty of adultery.  In this case, she loses her right to the dowry to the profit of her husband « What the husband possessed is his.  What the spouse possessed is her husband’s» not only, the spouse lost her goods in marriage, but she lost her personality also.  None of her acts had legal value. 

 

Islam

"The testimony of the man can be worth the double of the woman’s in the specialty domains of the man (if this case exists)

All the same, the testimony of the woman can be worth the double of the man’s in the specialty domains of the woman (if this case exists)

"A man cannot testify for his girl or his woman. 

He cannot as well renounce the testimony of a woman related to him

 

Respect and consideration of the woman

Judaïsme

Be aware of a bold girl for fear that, feeling the roads clear, she might profit from it.  Keep gard of sassy looks and don’t be astonished if they induce you to evil. 

"It is a good thing for those of which the children are male but an evil thing for those of which the children are female "," At the birth of a boy, all are joyous.. At the birth of a girl, all are sad ", and "When a boy arrives to the world, peace arrives to the world.. when a girl arrives, nothing arrives. 

Praised be God for not having created me as a non-jewish.  Praised be God for not having created me as a female. 

Praised be God for not having created me as an ignorant." 

Christianity

As in all the Churches of the saints, the women should remain silent in the assemblies, for it is not allowed for them to speak....  St Paul

As in all the Churches of the saints, the women should remain silent in the assemblies, for it is not allowed for them to speak; they should be submissive, according to the very Law.  If they want to be instructed on some point, they should question their husband at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in an assembly.  " St Paul

What difference there is in a spouse or a mother?  We should always be careful of tempting Eve that exists in every woman. .....I can’t see. ...what usage can the man do of the woman, if one excludes the function of raising children."  St augustin

 

Islam

"The paradise is under the feet of mothers" (Mouhammad) Right of the woman to speak and to have opinion liberty is recognized evenly to that of the man

Mouhammad said: Whoever raises two girls until their maturity, him and I will come the Day of the Resurrection as this; and he joined his fingers together

The Koran: "And among His signs He created of you, for you, wives so that you lived in tranquility with them and He put between you affection and goodness.  There is in that proofs for people who think"

Mouhammad said "the one who is devoted to raise his girls, and grants his care voluntary to them, this will be a protection for him against the Fire of Hell"

 

Questions on the impurety of the woman

Judaïsme

When a woman has a blood flow and that of the blood flows from her body, she will remain for seven days in the stain of her period.  Who will touch her will be impure until evening.…

When a woman has a blood flow and that of the blood flows from her body, she will remain for seven days in the stain of her period.  Who will touch her will be impure until evening.  All layer on which she will lay stained, will be impure; all furniture on which she will sit will be impure.  Whoever touches her bed will have to clean his clothing, to be washed with water, and he will be impure until evening.  If some object is located on the bed or on the furniture on which she sat, the one that will touch it will be impure until evening

Christianity

The woman was the origin of the sin, and it is because of her that we all die (catholic bible)

Islam

Does not consider that the woman in period possesses a sort of "contagious impurity ".  She is nor " untouchable " nor " cursed ".  She practices her life normally with only two restrictions:

1. A married couple is not authorized to have intimate relations during her period of menstruations. 

2. A woman cannot carry out her prayer or her fasting during her period (for there is continuous flow while the total cleanliness is required -following the example of the various flows of the body, that necessitate ablutions be it for the man or the woman-).

Value of marriage

Judaïsme

The three religions share an unshakable faith in the importance of marriage and family life.  They also believe in the quality of the husband to be the head of family.  Christianity

The three religions share an unshakable faith in the importance of marriage and family life.  They also believe in the quality of the husband to be the head of family.

Islam

The three religions share an unshakable faith in the importance of marriage and family life.  They also believe in the quality of the husband to be the head of family.

Consentment of the spouses

Judaïsme

Indispensable

Christianity

Indispensable

Islam

Indispensable

Status of the married woman

Judaïsme

The rabbinic literature indicate as well that the marriage represents a transfer of control from the father to the husband and if the woman is considered as the property of someone else, she can not make promesses not approved by her husband.

Christianity

Not only, the spouse loses her goods in her marriage, but she loses her personality as well.  None of her acts have a legal value

Christianity, until recently, followed the same jewish tradition.  Religious and civil authorities of the Christian Roman empire (after Constantine) demanded both a property agreement to recognize the marriage.  The families offered their girls while increasing continually dowries, and consequently, the men tend to get married earlier, while the families put back the marriage of their girl later than of custom.  Under the Canonical Law, a woman could claim her dowry if the marriage was canceled, except if she was guilty of adultery.  In this case, she loses her right to the dowry to the profit of her husband.  For example, the rights of women registered in the English law were compiled and published in 1632.  These rights foresaw: « what the husband possessed is his. What the spouse possessed is her husband’s» not only, the spouse lost her goods in marriage, but she lost her personality as well.  None of her acts had legal value. 

Islam

The Quran, on the other hand, never considers a woman as the property of a man.  The Quran describes with eloquence the relation between spouses while saying: And among His signs He created of you, for you, spouses so that you lived in tranquility with them and He put between you affection and goodness.  There is in that proofs for people who think

Financial aspects of Marriage

Judaïsme

The jewish tradition refuses to the woman any control over her own goods and profits

Christianity

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Islam

The man must take charge financially of his family (without calling upon the money of the woman) / but the woman can work if she wishes to

The goods of the spouse and her profits are under her total control and for her exclusive usage

The goods of the spouse and her profits are under her total control and for her exclusive usage since the entire responsibility of the charge of the wife and children is that of the husband.  No matter what the wealth of their life is, she is never obliged to provide the necessities for the family except if she decides it voluntarily.  Note at last that the spouses inherit naturally of each other. 

The husband has not right to take part of the goods of his woman except what she offers him of her own will

Adultery

Judaïsme

Strong inequality regarding the question of the adultery
To this day in Israël: strong inequality regarding the question of the adultery
Today in Israël, if a married man gets into relations out of marriage with a non married woman, his children from this woman are considered legitimate.  But, if a married woman has a extra-marital relation with a man, married or not, her children from this man are not only illegitimate, but they are considered as bastards, and cannot get married to any Jew except if bastard or converted.  This segregation is transmitted to the children for ten generations until the stain of the adultery is really gone

Christianity

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Islam

"And don’t approach at all from the fornication.  In truth, this is a turpitude and what a bad road" Quran

Divorce

Judaïsme

The jewish woman can obtain a divorce with much difficulty (The Talmud lists many difficulties) The spouses, on the other hand, cannot ask for divorce in the jewish law.  Nevertheless, a jewish woman, can claim the divorce right in front of the jewish court provided that she has a strong reason.  Very few situations allow the jewish wife to deposit a divorce request.  These are the following: a husband that suffers from physical defects or of diseases of skin; a husband that lacks commitment to his marital responsibilities, etc.  The court can support the divorce request of the wife but it cannot dissolve the marriage.  Only the husband can dissolve the marriage by giving his wife a divorce ticket.

To divorce a mean woman is obligatory

It is even an obligation to divorce a « bad woman »: « broken heart, sullen face and wound of heart, here is the masterpiece of a mean woman.  Inert hands and paralyzed knees, here is the masterpiece of the one who does not make her husband happy.  The woman is the origin of sin and it is because of her that we all die.  Don’t let water escape, don’t let as well a mean woman talk with liberty.  If she does not walk according to the finger and eye, separate yourself from her and send her back. »

(The ecclesiastic 25 :23-25). 

From OBLIGATORY divorce to divorce WITH NO CAUSE The Talmud keeps their different opinions: « The school of

Shammai considers that a man should not divorce his woman except in case of sexual fault, while the school of Hillel asserts that he can divorce her even if she ruins the dishwashing.  The Rabbi Akiba says that he can divorce her simply because he found a more beautiful woman than her» (Gittin 90a-b).  The New Testament follows the opnion of the Shammaits while the jewish law follows that of the Hillelites and R. Akiba.  Since the opinion of the Hillelites prevailed, it constitutes today the registered tradition in the jewish law that gives the husband the liberty to divorce his woman with no cause at all. 

Cases where divorce becomes OBLIGATORY

Specific actions of the spouse that oblige the husbands to divorce them: « If she ate in the street, if she drank with greediness in the street, if she suckled in the street, in every case the Rabbi Meir says that she must leave her husband » (Git.  89a). The Talmud also made obligatory the divorce of sterile woman (who does not get pregnant in ten years) : « Our rabbis teach us: if a man takes a woman and lives with her for ten years and she does not get pregnant with any child, he must divorce her » (Yeb.  64A)

The marriage becomes an infernal trap for the woman in case of misunderstanding

Even worse, he can abandon her without granting her divorce and to leave her without husband or divorce.  He can marry another woman, or even live with a mistress without union and she can give him children (these children will be considered legitimate under the jewish law).  On the other hand, the abandoned woman, can’t get married to another man since she is still legally married nor can she live with another man for she will be considered as adulterous woman and her born children of this union will be considered illegitimate for ten generations.  A woman that lives this situation is called agunah (woman in chains) [Swidler, op. cit., pages.  162-163.]. In the United States today, one finds between 1000 and 1500 jewish women agunot (plural of agunah), while their approximate number in reaches 16000.  Husbands extort thousands of dollars from their trapped women in exchange for jewish divorce

Christianity

Woman object of discrimination related to the question of divorce

«When a man takes a woman and marry her, then, finding in she something that make him ashamed, stops looking at her with favor, composes for her a repudiation act and gives it to her while sending her away, when the woman is therefore gone from his place, left, then became the woman od another, if the other one stops liking her, composes for her a repudiation act and gives it to her while sending her away, or if the other man that had taken her for woman dies, then, her 1st husband, who had sent her back, can not take her back as his wife, after she became impure» (Deut.  24:1-4). Christianity abhors totally the divorce: The New Testament advocates the categorical indissolubility of the marriage.  Someone attributed to Jesus the following: «And me, I say to you: whoever renounces his woman— except in case of illegal union— to expose her [make her] adulterous; and if someone marries a renounced one, he is adulterous.  » (Matthiew 5: 32). 

With the non Catholic Christians, the divorce is possible in certain positions (ex. adultery by the woman) but all forbid the remarriage in case of adultery (except for the victim for the orthodox)

Islam

The Muslim woman can decide to end her marriage by the Khula' as she can decide to go to court to obtain divorce.  A Muslim wife can never remain linked to a recalcitrant husband It is these rights that seduced the jewish women that lived in the first Islamic societies of the 7th century.  They were trying then to obtain from their husbands divorce bills in these Muslim courts.  The rabbis declared these bills null.  With the intention of putting an end to this practice, the rabbis opened new rights and privileges to the jewish women to weaken the resorting to the Islamic courts

Weakest rate in the world

Of all the licit things, the divorce is the most hated of God

Clothing (Veil, ..)

Judaïsme

The woman must not be dressed as a man (and the man must not be dressed as a woman)

"The decency is very important for the woman.  First at all on the level of the clothing: it is forbidden to be dressed in a way that reveals a part of her body, with the exception of the face, neck and hands" Rabbi Youssef Haïm (The Laws of the Woman; Ed.  Salem Yshua, Jerusalem)

Christianity

The woman must not be dressed as a man (and the man must not be dressed as a woman)

As for women, they should have a decent clothing, they should be decorated with decency and modesty: no braids, no gold jewels no pearls or sumptuous toilet, but she should adorns herself on the opposite of good deeds (First Epistle of Paul to Timothy 2:9-12)

For if a woman is not veiled, she should cut her hair.  Or if it is shameful for a woman to have the hair cut or to be shaved: she should be veiled (First Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians 11:6)

Veil put in submission to man: (1st Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians 11:10) "the man was not created for the woman but the woman was created for the man: this is why the woman must put on her head a mark of the authority to which she is submitted…”

Islam

The woman must not be dressed as a man (and the man must not be dressed as a woman)

Presentation of the body: Decency, not to over-present the forms, not to show by transparency

Oh prophet!  Tell your spouses, your girls and the spouses of believers to put on them a section of their veil. That even makes them recognized and to avoid any inconvenience (Quran 33:59)

Veil put in obedience to the prescriptions of God on decency, modesty and protection of woman

Women and violence

Judaïsme

: The situation of women in Israël is very alarming.  For the laic parties, the source of violence against women would be a certain conception of woman largely transmitted by the position of woman in judaïsme.  The Israeli women count 200 000 women battues. Between 6 to 10 women die currently each year because of violence exercised by their husband.  The number of violated women rises to 5000 declared rapes (We normally double this figure to evaluate the effective number of rapes, the declaration of a rape always representing an additional traumatism dreaded by the victim).  We don’t always link this figure to that of the agunots, married women abandoned by their husband and not being able to remarry, for lack of watch.  The woman has no right to decide of her destiny in these three cases, she is reduced to the status of a child or of an object that one uses, that one mistreats, that one abandons once the need to use it passed.  This situation is therefore disastrous in terms of figures, but also in quality, in psychology, for the Israeli nation. 

Around13 women were killed by their husband in the framework of honor crimes in 1997.  According to an investigation carried out in 1997, more than 200 000 women suffer from domestic violence each year.  According to a report of press, we estimate to more than 60 000 the number of sexually attacked women in 1997.  About 60% of the victims are girls of age less than 18 years.  Only 10 refuges for women beaten existed in 1997 in the country.  We estimate to 20% the number of Israeli abused women each year, all violences mixed.  In the Israeli parliament, the women occupy 9 seats over the 120 existing. 

Christianity

: more than 14 000 cases of domestic violence were retrieved by the authorities in 1997.  Two-thirds of the women in detention were not judged before 5 to 6 years.  "

: , a rape is committed every 7 minutes.  1997, 9 000 cases of domestic violence and 12 000 persons were assisted.  Rape remains the most frequently committed crime with 1 700 retrieved cases (1 center only).  Each year, more than a million Mexican women follow a treatment for blows and injuries following a domestic violence.  According to the Mexican Federation of the unions of women, 95% of the women workers were victims of sexual harassement in the work place.  An investigation carried out among 5 000 of the 13 000 minors that live in the street reveal that 90% are girls that prostitute themselves or that are exploited by the pornographic industry. 

New zelande: 1 woman on 16 is a victim of violence each year.  35% of men physicly abused a woman related to them near in a part or another of their life.  An investigation reveals that the husbands and the "boy friends" of women or girls are responsible of 25% of the total of sexual aggressions.  "

: more than 60% of the families directed by a woman live under poverty threshhold.  6 522 cases of domestic violence in Rome, in 1997 ( + 9,5% over a year)

We estimate more than 25 000 women immigrating illegal to the Italian ground are placed on the market of prostitution : the women beaten represent close to 1/4 of the total of women. 

8,6% women complain about sexual harassment in the work place, of which 19,4% of women studying in British universities and polytechnical schools.  The ministry of the interior estimated to 110 000 the number of guilty recognized men of offences with regard to children. 

In addition, 1 on 60 had been charged with sexual crimes before the age of 40 years...  The little girls being the most affected by these abuses.  Almost two women a week were killed by their partner to the (Joni Seager 2003)• In The United Kingdom, 13 %of the violated women signaled their aggression to the police (Joni Seager, 2003) : Alcohol or the drug consumption intervenes only once on five (20%) in the domestic violence cases.  (Themis, 1999).  The same study indicates that the victims withdraw their complaint in 56% of the cases.  According to the Spanish feminist organizations, 90 women are dead in 2001, victims of domestic violence. 

: 95% of the victims of violence in are women.  8,9% women declared having been attacked during the year 1997.  19,8% women complained about having been pestered sexually during the same period. 

In , 25 000 women are violated each year (European Lobby of women, 2001).  The last national study in showed that in 2001, 1,35 millions of women were victims of domestic violence.  (Europe counsel - july/2002).  Every 15 days, 3 women are killed by their partner.  (Etude Henrion for the Ministry of health - June 2001).  In 2003, their number is estimated to 6 a week!  The physical or sexual aggressions are rare outside of the family environment or the privater sphere and are respectively of 1,7% and of 1,9%.  60% of the night interventions of police in Paris concern the marital violences.  (State secretariat for the Rights of Women - 1999).  At least 2.000.000 of the women victim of marital violence in .  400 die from the blows of their partner each year, be it more than a woman a day...  (Right of Knowledge, March 99, TF1)

 

 

 

 

: A woman on three was a victim of domestic violence in a period of her life (UN - 2000).  14,5% women underwent sexual violence by members of the family.  (European lobby of women - 2000). 

In , 14,5% of the women underwent sexual violence by members of the family (European Lobby of women).  3 women are murdered every four days by men with whom they lived: close to 300 per year

Brazil: 26,2% of women are victims of physical violence; 16,4% of death threat; 3% of "" crimes of honor""; 1,8% of rape, 1,9% of enticement and 0,5% of homicide...  88% of women having undergone physical violence were women staying at home.  The bodily injuries constitute 70,2% of all offences of which women are victims...  From January to March 1996, 50 000 cases of violence on women were recorded in the city of Sao Paulo alone. 

: the domestic violence would affect more than one family on three or four.  An investigation revealed that 2,6 millions of women (38% of Australian feminine population) had the experience of at least a physical or sexual case of violence during their life.  In 1994, in two weeks, about 2 150 women escaped from their residence to find refuge in the welcome centers.  Statistics on the crimes reveal that on 150 victims of homicides, 121 were women. 

In , a woman was killed every five days by her partner in 2000 (Joni Seager, The Atlas of Women)

In , each year, 25 to 30 women are beaten to death by their partner.  (Swedish institute)

: 1997 47% of women had been physically abused by their partner or their spouse, of which 23% kept marks forever. 

: During the year 1997, a refuge for women victims of violence received 490 calls for help and 230 took refuge there.  During the first half of this same year, 970 rape cases were inventoried.  60% pronounced divorces in Bucharest city alone have for causes physical violence.  On 100 imprisoned women for homicide, 60 had killed their spouse in reaction to a continuous violence. 

: 1997, 9% of questioned women admitted to be beaten regularily by their husband.  According to non-official figures, more than 3 000 Bulgarian women work in in the sector of prostitution through a criminal international network.  In Russia Federation, 36 000 women are beaten daily by their husband or partner, according to Russian non-governmental organizations (OMCT 2003)

 

United States: more than 4 million American women are physically abused or raped by their husband, boy friend or a person they know each year, that is 1 on 3 are abused at least once in their life.  Every 15 seconds, a woman is abused or raped to the . 

In Idaho, violence or a sexual crime is committed every 7 hours.  25 to 30% of the sexually abused or beaten women are, at least, once a week.  Between 1983 and 1991, the number of cases of domestic violence increased to 117%.  50% of women without shelter become that after domestic violence.  In 1997 and 1998, more than 2 200 pregnant women were imprisoned and more than 1 300 babies cameto the world by prisoners.  56% of the Americans declare that they know at least a person in their entourage (friends, work colleague) that was implied in a domestic violence matter.  In the , a woman is beaten by her husband or partner every fifteen seconds (Study of the united Nations on women in the world, 2000).  In the , a woman is violated every 90 seconds (American Ministry of Justice, 2000).  In the United States, 16 % of the women signal a rape to the police; among the ones that do not do it, almost 50 % declare that they would do it if they were sure that their name and personal information will not be made public (National Victim Center Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center, 1992).  In 1997 and 1998, more than 2 200 pregnant women were imprisoned and more than 1 300 babies came to the world by prisoners.  56% of the Americans declare that they know at least a person in their entourage (friends, work colleague) that was implied in a domestic violence matter.  In the , a woman is beaten by her husband or partner every fifteen seconds (Study of the united Nations on women in the world, 2000).  In the , a woman is violated every 90 seconds (American Ministry of Justice, 2000).  In the United States, 16 % of the women signal a rape to the police; among the ones that do not do it, almost 50 % declare that they would do it if they were sure that their name and personal information will not be made public (National Victim Center Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center, 1992).  In 1997 and 1998, more than 2 200 pregnant women were imprisoned and more than 1 300 babies came to the world by prisoners.

: 1996 more than 12 000 cases of domestic violence.  88% of the responsible men of these violence acts were the spouses of the victims and 63% of the reports invoked physical attacks.  In 1997, a report on the domestic violence estimated the number of cases to be 61 000.  In 1994, there were 2 280 inventoried rapes

The counts 4 millions of inhabitants and we consider that, each year, 10 000 Norwegian women receive cares for bodily damages generated by family violence.  (European lobby of women - 2000)

: close to 50% of the Canadian women were raped by men that they know.  One Canadian woman on four was raped by her husband or by her common-law spouse

About 60% of attacked women by their husband undergo injuries.  Of this number, 20% require medical services.  In 1991, almost half of the murdered women in were murdered by their spouse.  80% of the handicapped women will be victims of a sexual aggression during their life.  The women constituted almost the two third (59%) of killed victims in the context of a family relation (1993). 

In , the cost of violence within the family, calculated while including the medical cares and loss of productivity, rises to 1,6 billion dollars per year (UNICEF 2000)

: 74% of the bolivian women live a violence relation.  A study realized by Unicef in 18 schools of The Paz (capital) and of El Alto reveals that 34% of the adolescents were violated, rape intervening most often inside the very home.  67% of the complaints are done to denounce physical aggressions; the other complaints concern abandonment cases of the home by man, of abandonment of pregnant women, of death threats, of sexual violence, etc...  At the moment of raping their partner, 42% of the aggressors are in condition of drunkness; the second motive of violence is jealousy.  In , 17 % of all the twenty-year-old women and more underwent physical violence during the twelve last months (OMS 2002)

In , a study realized in 1998 revealed than about 211 000 women were victims of violence perpetrated by a close person. 

In , a woman on five underwent physical or sexual violence in her couple life and almost 40% suffer from verbal or psychological violence.  (Www.prevention.ch - 1999) : 1 010 cases of domestic violence had been retrieved in 1995, 1 600 in 1996 and 1 820 in 1997.  In 1998, 1 700 persons were treated of family violence in Alvear hospital; 1 200 concerned the marital violence.  Between 1995 and 1996, the crisis center against the violence received an average of 25 000 calls per year.  We estimate between 5 000 and 7 000 the number of committed rapes in the country each year.  The majority of the aggressors are part of the family or known to victims.  In 1997, in the city of Buenos Aires alone, We count more than 10 000 prostitutes

Islam

In , 35 % of women have declared been beaten by their husband during their marriage years (UNICEF 2000).  97 % of married women in of age 15 to 49 years underwent genital mutilations (investigation OMS, 1996). 

In , 50 % of all committed murders are those of women murdered by their partner (Joni Seager 2003)

In , 42 % of women accept violence as their destiny; 33 % feel powerless to react; 19 % protested and 4 % reacted whith actions (governmental Study In Punjab in 2001)

In , 35,6 % of women undergo marital rapes sometimes and 16,3 % often (published studies in 2000, [Women and sexuality in the Muslim societies], Editions WWHR, Istanbul, 2000).  In , close to 30% of women are beaten, regularly for the majority of them, by their spouse or by members of their family.  (Feminist Info - 2000). 

In , at least 400 women and girls, some of eight years old only, are violated in Baghdad during or after the war, since April 2003 (investigation Human Rights Watch, 2003)

Only 16 nations have laws specifically referencing sexual aggressions; violence against women does not raise penal justice but in three countries:

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Religion and Values

Pure “humanitarian” values (justice, loyalty, equality, solidarity, love, honesty, humility, integrity, patience, mercy, moderation, forgivness)?

Justice

Judaïsme

You will not commit any iniquity in your judgements at all: you will not have any consideration to the poor person and will not favor the grand person, but you will judge your relative according to justice (Levitique 19:15)

The responsibility of sin is carried throughout the following generations: When a woman has a blood flow and that the blood flows of her body, she will remain in the stain of her period for seven days.  Who will touch her will be impure until evening.  Every layer on which she will lay as soiled, will be impure; all furniture on which she will sit will be impure.  Whoever will touch her bed will have to clean his cloth, to take a bath, and he will be impure until evening.  Whoever will touch any furniture, whatever it is, where she sat, will have to clean his clothing, to take a bath, and he will be impure until evening.  If some object is located on the bed or on the furniture on which she sat, the one that will touch it will be impure until evening

Man being the favorite and very superior to woman

God privileges some population over others

Christianity

You will not commit any iniquity in your judgements at all: you will not have any consideration to the poor person and will not favor the grand person, but you will judge your relative according to justice (Levitique 19:15)

Death of Christ = expiation of the sins for all those that have faith in him, for at the start the man is sinner by nature, Jesus was condemned in his place => Man is saved if he believes in Jesus Christ "without the deeds"

Jesus teaches that eachone is judged by his every day behavior (Matthiew 25:31-46)

St John writes that Faith allows escaping the judgement (John 3/18)

Do not judge according to appearances but judge according to justice

(Gospel according to John 7:24)

All the men are born sinners after the original sin of Adam and Eve (except for the orthodox of east)

"Concerning her individual nature, the woman is defective and poorly raised, for the active force contained in the male semence tends to produce a perfect similarity of the masculine sex.  While the production of a woman comes from a defect in the active force or from a lack of a certain matter or even from an external influence.

Finally, the famous reforming Martin Luther could not see any benefit of a woman if it weren’t that of bringing to the world as children much as possible, no matter what the secondary effects are: If they are tired or die, that has no importance.  Let them die in bed, they are there for that purpose!" by St thomas of Acquin

The responsibilities of a sin are carried throughout the following generations: When a woman has a blood flow and the blood flows of her body, she will remain for seven days in the stain of her period.  Who will touch her will be impure until evening.  All layer on which she will lay thus soiled, will be impure; all furniture on which she will sit will be impure.  Whoever will touch her bed will have to clean his clothing, to take a bath, and he will be impure until evening.  Whoever will touch any furniture, whichever it is, where she sat, will have to clean his clothing, take a bath, and he will be impure until evening.  If some object is located on the bed or on the furniture on which she sat, the one that will touch it will be impure Until evening

Man superior to woman (for Eve siined first and incited Adam)

The Protestants believe in faith alone.  The Catholics believe also, in the good deeds (possibility to repurchase, materially, one’s faults)

Islam

"Are condemned those who, before you, did not penalize a noble person that stole and that penalized a poor persone that stole " Mouhammad

"Your aversion against people should not incite you to be unfair" 5:8

To the day of resurrection, We will place the exact balances.  No soul will be wronged at all, be it from the weight of a grain of mustard that We will send for (Quran)

All men are born pure

"Oh you who believe!  Observe strictly justice and be witnesses for God be it against yourselves or against your father and mother and your close parents" 4:135

"Individual responsibility: if sin then punishment of the sinner alone"

“Whoever takes the right way takes it for himself only, and whoever misleads misleads to his own detriment.  And no one carries the burden of others" 17:15 "

Equality of men and women

No difference between Arabic and non-Arabic, between black and white

God forbade himself injustice and forbade it to men

"Whoever does a bad action will be remunerated only by a similar one; and whoever, male or female, does a good action all while being a believer, then those will enter to Pradise to receive goods without counting"

Friendship

Judaïsme

"The friend loves all the time and in the misfortune he shows himself as a brother" Proverbs 17:17

The just shows his friend the good way" Proverbs 12:26

"The one that suffers has the right of compassion by his friend" Job 6:14

"Two are better than one, because they have a good salary of their pain.  For if they fall, one gets his companion back on his feet, but God helps the one that is alone and that falls, without having a second to help him" Ec 4:9-10

Christianity

"The friend loves all the time and in the misfortune he shows himself as a brother" Proverbs 17:17

The just shows his friend the good way" Proverbs 12:26

"The one that suffers has the right of compassion by his friend" Job 6:14

"Two are better than one, because they have a good salary of their pain.  For if they fall, one gets his companion back on his feet, but God helps the one that is alone and that falls, without having a second to help him" Ec 4:9-10

Islam

"The example of Muslims in their friendship, their mutual compassion, in their sympathy, is as the example of one body of which the tiresome of an organ induces the whole body of being affected by fever and insomnia" (Mouhammad)

Love of neigbour, Fraternity, Solidarity, Generosity, Loyalty

Judaïsme

You will leave them in inheritance to your children after you, as a property; you will keep them as slaves forever.  But with regard to your brothers, the children of , no one of u will dominate with hardness on his brother (Levitique 25:46)

Christianity

You will leave them in inheritance to your children after you, as a property; you will keep them as slaves forever.  But with regard to your brothers, the children of , no one of u will dominate with hardness on his brother (Levitique 25:46)

Love your neighbour like yourself

Recommend them to do good, to be rich in good actions, to have liberality, generosity (First Epistle of Paul to Timothy 6:18)

Islam

"The one that cheats us is not a good Muslim" Mouhammad "And offer the food despite his love, to the poor one, to the orphan and to the prisoner" Quran

Grant an important place to neighbors (until the 7th most near neighbor)

"Every traitor has a banner the day of resurrection, than is hoisted according to the degree of his treason" (Mouhammad) Treat the servants with lot of indulgence.  Not to wrong a worker in his salary and not to demand him to do things that exceed his force

"And recall the kindness of Allah on you: when you were enemies, it is Him that reconciliated your hearts.  Then by his kindness, you became brothers.  And while you were by a fire abyss, it is Him that saved you from it.  Thus Allah shows you his signs so that you well be guided" (3:103)

"… and do not dispute with each other otherwise you will bend and will lose your force" (8:46)

"No one of you is really a believer until he wishes for his neighbour what he desires for himself" (Mouhammad)

"Those who dissect their religion and divide themselves in sects, for those you are not responsible at all.  Then He will inform them of what they did" (3:159)

Highest voluntary charity rate in the world (in the countries of Islamic majority)

"Fear Allah, maintain the concord between you" (8:1)

"And whoever cautions himself against his own avarice, those are those who succeed" (59:9)

"Merciful between them" (48:29)

Humility

Judaïsme

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Christianity

Charity is patient, it is full of goodness; charity is not at all envious; charity is not praised at all, it does swell with any pride (First Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians 13:4)

Islam

Mouhammad "Allah inspired me to order you humility so that none of you mistake his brothers or oppresss them"

"I will seperate from My Signs those that, without reason, swell with pride on earth…" (7:146)

"..et don’t divert your face of men, and do not trample the earth with arrogance: for Allah does not like the presumptuous full of glory" (31:18)

Equality

Judaïsme

If a man accuses his woman of adultery, her testimony will not be taken into account at all, according to the Bible. 

The accused woman must undergo a process by test / complex and humiliating ritual (Numbers 5:11-31).  If the sentence declares her guilty, she will die.  In the case where she is innocent, her husband will be innocent of any bad conduct. 

Christianity

If a man accuses his woman of adultery, her testimony will not be taken into account at all, according to the Bible. 

The accused woman must undergo a process by test / complex and humiliating ritual (Numbers 5:11-31).  If the sentence declares her guilty, she will die.  In the case where she is innocent, her husband will be innocent of any bad conduct. 

Islam

"Oh men!  We created you of a male and of a female, and we made of you nations and tribes for that you inter connect.  The most noble one of you with Allah is the most pious" Quran God forbade himself injustice and forbade it to men

"Whoever does a bad action will be remunerated only by a similar one; and whoever, male or female, does a good action all while being a believer, then those will enter to Pradise to receive goods without counting"

Pardon

Judaïsme

The Eternal is slow to anger and rich in goodness, He forgives the iniquity and rebellion; but he will never hold the guilty one for innocent, and he punishes the iniquity of the fathers on the children until the 3rd or 4th generation (The Numbers 14:18)

 

Christianity

The Eternal is slow to anger and rich in goodness, He forgives the iniquity and rebellion; but he will never hold the guilty one for innocent, and he punishes the iniquity of the fathers on the children until the 3rd or 4th generation (The Numbers 14:18)

The Protestant priests do not have to carry judgement on the behavior of the people

Peter told them: regret, and that each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, for the pardon of your sins

(Acts of Apostles 2:38)

Confession and Catholic priests in charge of absolving the sin

Islam

"Tell those who believed in forgiving those who do not believe in the days of Allah so that he renumerate every people for what they did" (forgive the non-Muslim that make you undergo pain) (45:14)

"By God!  If you commit sins to the point that they fill the space between earth and sky, then you ask God to absolve you, he will absolve you" (Mouhammad)

If the intention is pure (regret, sincere renunciation to restart, …) : God forgives without intermediary

"Of course, Allah does not forgive that one gives him an associate.  Apart from that He forgives to whom He wants.  But whoever gives Allah an associate commits a huge sin" (4:48)

Parents and children

Judaïsme

The one who curses his father or his mother will be punished by death (Exodus 21:17)

The rabbinic literature indicates also that marriage represents a transfer of control from the father to the husband if the woman is considered as property of others, she cannot make promises of which her owner doesn’t approve. 

Christianity

The one who curses his father or his mother will be punished by death (Exodus 21:17)

Children obey your parents according to the lord for that is just (Epistle of Paul to the Ephisiens 6:1)

What difference does it make if it is a spouse or a mother?  We always must be cautious of tempting Eve that exists in every woman. .....i don’t see. ...what usage can the man do of the woman, if one excludes the function of raising children"  St augustin

Honor your father and your mother (Gospel according to Matthiew 19:18)

If someone comes to me and does not hate his father, his mother, his woman, his children, his brothers, his sisters, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple

Islam

"And your lord decreed: "do not adore but Him, and (mark) goodness towards the father and mother: if one of both of them must attain the old age with you, then don’t say to them: "Uff!" and don’t rush them, but address them with respectful words, and by mercy, lower for them the wing of humility, and say: Oh my lord, do them both mercy like they raised me when I was small " (17:23-24)

Right of the parents towards the children: love, obedience, to be treated generously

"The biggest sin: to give God an associate and not to have a good behavior towards one’s father and mother" (Mouhammad)

"Be grateful to me and to your father and mother, the

return will be to me.  If they strive to bring you to associate to me that of which you have no knowledge, do not obey them at all and behave towards them in this low world of a suitable manner…."  31:14-15

God ordered to behave well towards the parents and this no matter what their faith and their attitude with regard to the faith of their child was

"And your Lord decreed: « Adore only Him; and (mark) goodness towards the father and mother: if one of them or both must attain the old age with you; then never say to them: «Uff! « And don’t rush them, but address them with respectful words and by mercy; lower to them the wing of humility; and say: « Oh my Lord, do them both mercy as they raised me when I was small "

In Islam, honor, respect and esteem linked to maternity is incomparble.  The Quran places importance on the benevolence with regard to parents in second position, just behind the importance of adoration of God All Mighty

 

 

 

Politness and good manners

Judaïsme

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Christianity

(2 John 10) If someone comes to you and do not bring this doctrine, do not receive him in your house and don’t greet him at all, for the one that greets him participates to his bad deeds.  A Christian must not be polite towards his neighbour that does not think as he does? 

Islam

"And avoid speculating on others for a part of speculation is sin.  And do not spy; and do not slander of one another…" (Quran Al Houjourat 12)

"And tell my servants to express the better words, for the devil sows the discord among them.  The devil is of course for man a declared enemy" (Quran Al Isra' 53)

Democracy

Judaïsme

Religious legitimacy is necessarily preeminent in comparison with political legitimacy (puts the problem of the recognition of democratic principle such as we know it)

Evolution: recognition of the state, but clear justification of the resistance to the state, since the decisions taken by its leaders would oppose the process of messianic redemption!  "Religious Sionisme: open to democracy. 

Rabbi Kahana: totally opposed to democracy

"the deletion of our will in front of His that constitutes the essential principle of Judaïsme"

Democracy does not apply but to Jews (ex. Arabs have no political right)

The non-jewish in Israël have limited rights and under control/ copied from the status of the non-jewish in the bible "the ger toshav" : total submission to jewish authority (else Expulsion and confiscation of land)

Big Master Rabbi Aharon Halévy in the Séfer ha'Hinoukh (mitswa75) : "we should not follow the majority except in the case where the two opinions at hand are expressed by two groups of equivalent level of wisdom of Torah.  It is impossible to envision that a groupuscule of Grand Wise can hold less authority than that of a multitude of stupid people, be it they are as numerous as the Jews going out of Egypt" Today, it is true that the orthodox judaïsme, in a way, plays the democratic game in Israël.  But it gets involved in that with the feeling that its participation represents a least evil in comparison with the "disastrous"consequences  that would induce his inaction, without there adhering to it inside

Can with much difficulty be compatible

Christianity

In history, Christianity influenced, impeded or favored

The political exercise of democracy (allying itself with governments or monarc, despotic structures or tyranic) to the French revolution (Jacques MARITAIN)

Incompetence of the state in religious matter (position of JP II, that is different of the one of the Pope Léon XIII who demanded from the state to respect the holy and inviolable observance of the religion of which the duties unite man to GOD)

“May everyone, among men, be subjected to the orders of the lord, be it the king, or director" (1 Peter 2:13)

Robert Haldane (Conventional Christianity / Rom 13:1-7; Tit 3:1; 1Pi 2:13-14): "So to resist government is to resist God, since the government is ordered by God.  The people of God must consider that the resistance to civil government is a horrible crime, since its is as opposing God himself" Christianity, "beaten" by the revolution and Secularity, returns in a very "pragmatic" manner / Ratzinger: "We do not wish to impose Catholicisme to the west, but we want that the basic values of Christianity and the liberal values dominating the world of today to be able to meet and interact mutually"

Can be compatible in a pragmatic way

Islam

Sacral democracy: first in the domain of the conscience and feelings, next in the domain of facts, individual and public acts, and in the functioning of the institutions

Islam refuses the 2 anti-democratic elements: despotism and slavery (that pollute the classical democracy with

interest coalitions, trusts and the dictatorship of the classes) No obedience for a creature in disobeying the creator

Can be compatible in a pragmatic manner
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